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Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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> At least when it comes to CDN and DNS there’s literally no vendor lock-in. ehhhh, really depends on which CDN features you're using, and at what volume. Using ESI? VCL? Signed URLs or auth? Any other custom functionality? Are you depending on your provider's bot management features which are "CONTACT FOR PRICE" with other providers? Does your CDN provider have a special egress deal with your cloud provider? It's po…

>Using ESI? VCL? Signed URLs or auth? Any other custom functionality? Are you depending on your provider's bot management features which are "CONTACT FOR PRICE" with other providers? I have no idea what two of those acronyms mean. None of this is part of what a CDN offers. Yes if you use DDoS protection, or cloudfare’s ZeroTrust or embrace $X proprietary features then what I said no longer applies. I strictly said DN…

ESI = Edge Side Includes think Server Side Includes on a CDN technology as supported by Akamai and used by sites like Ikea to deliver a fast maintainable experience

VCL = Varnish Configuration Language i.e. how you configure your Fastly services

If you're just using a CDN as a proxy then there's no lock in but plenty of sites are using CDNs for much more than that

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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FWIW, Cloudflare's edge platform is pretty proprietary too.

The platform yes, but the runtime and the APIs are apache 2.0 licensed and uses web standards wherever possible. Thats way more open than most alternatives i am aware of.

Unless the project is controlled by democratic committee where cloudflare doesn't have a majority of seats it's not open source in any meaningful sense of the word, maybe we should stop acting like corporate sourced software is anything but an attempt to get free labor from the commons.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Federal Trade Commission An acronym as common as GDPR.

I'm just making a point the whole world doesn't revolve around America.

There will also be obnoxious farts who say "the world doesn't revolve around the EU" every time GDPR is mentioned.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Unfortunately it doesn't offer free hosting for hobbyists. Even for superficial traffic you'll have pay 1 euro a month (plus VAT). Not many DNS management providers (that I'm aware of, please correct me) support CNAME flattening. That is having your A record point to a CNAME. Every time I purge the pull zone cache, I do it twice, cause once from my CI isn't enough. My CI does individual page cache invalidation during…

The absence of free offering is not a bug in this case, it's a feature.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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I use bunny.net for CDN and DNS. I don't like free offerings, because what if they decide to charge someday? What if someone decides "free is not feasible, we start charging $20 per instance now". I'd rather have a low fee now, a change from $2 to $3 is more likely and that's fine for me. But from free to not free is risky for me. I also like smaller, independent-ish ompanies that actually care about developers. That…

If you have the money it’s good

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Yeah IANAL, but this sort of endorsement with undisclosed remuneration would probably run afoul of FTC guidelines, which is why you see disclaimers like "As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases" everywhere. The author seems to live in the UK, but a cursory search suggests there's something similar there as well.

Maybe it technically under some regulation runs afoul. The FTC would never bother themselves with this and I don’t believe it’s in the spirit of the intent.

They might not enforce it consistently, but they do bother themselves with it enough to have guidelines.

https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/disclosures-...

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Can anyone say why this is being downvoted? Seems like it makes sense to me, but this isn't my area of expertise.

For personal projects, I'd rather just pay $2/month and not think about it than get hit with a random bill and scramble to migrate before the next month's bill. Bunny is perfect for this use case where you have a handful of projects that aren't all actively maintained. It just works without hand-holding, and since you're paying for the service, there's no rugpull looming.

Don't you still have to worry about big bills since bunny bills based on usage?

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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In the interests of transparent disclosure on such a positive blog post, It might be worth calling out that all the links on the page are all linked to the Bunny Affiliate Program. [1] [1] https://bunny.net/affiliate/

Sorry, I realize I overdid it on the affiliate links so I've called out the link and removed some others. Just thought it was nice that they had an affiliate program. Nothing shady intended!

Thanks for the update. The usage of an affiliate link feels quite dishonest here because the hyperlink says bunny.net but then opens up bunny.net/?ref=xxxx

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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The platform yes, but the runtime and the APIs are apache 2.0 licensed and uses web standards wherever possible. Thats way more open than most alternatives i am aware of.

Unless the project is controlled by democratic committee where cloudflare doesn't have a majority of seats it's not open source in any meaningful sense of the word, maybe we should stop acting like corporate sourced software is anything but an attempt to get free labor from the commons.

> maybe we should stop acting like corporate sourced software is anything but an attempt to get free labor from the commons

The point of this discussion is that you can self-host, and you have a good chance of migrating the code away entirely. That's a big benefit that isn't "an attempt to get free labor". For that use, not only does it not matter if it's meaningfully open source, it doesn't matter if it's open source at all.

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