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Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by soblemprolver »

thousand_nights wrote: post #86
netcan wrote: post #33

Idiocracy hit a lot of superficial/thematic nails on the head with its silliness. "Don't Look Up" captures a lot more of the actual dynamics. Instead of anti-eugenics making brains feeble, the people are just normal humans made stupid by their cultural environment, incentives and suchlike.

i couldn't finish "Don't Look Up", it felt like sitting through a political lecture. all i wanted from a comedy was some laughs.

I couldn't finish "Idiocracy" because the underlying eugenics nonsense made me angry enough not to enjoy the comedy anymore.

It made me angry because makes the point that natural selection has become ineffective on humans and thus intelligence declines unironically. There is no joke in that - all jokes build upon the assumption of this being true.

If it were true, then decline wouldn't have begun in the 19th or 20th century but around the time that property and currencies emerged.

But there is no need to disproof this because there is no evidence that it has any truth to it.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by mvdwoord »

thousand_nights wrote: post #86
netcan wrote: post #33

Idiocracy hit a lot of superficial/thematic nails on the head with its silliness. "Don't Look Up" captures a lot more of the actual dynamics. Instead of anti-eugenics making brains feeble, the people are just normal humans made stupid by their cultural environment, incentives and suchlike.

i couldn't finish "Don't Look Up", it felt like sitting through a political lecture. all i wanted from a comedy was some laughs.

Same here. There was something feeling so obviously off with Don't Look Up.. for me at least. Idiocracy did not suffer from this.. but Mike Judge is somewhat of an acquired taste I guess.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by rob74 »

marxisttemp wrote: post #109
anonymars wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair point, but why jump to genetics instead of culture (upbringing)?

Because the film itself implies that the idiocracy is due to stupid people breeding more, a classic tenet of Nazism and eugenics alike

That's ironic seeing that nazis (or the far right in general) usually need stupid people to vote for them so they get into a position where they can undermine a democratic system...

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by coldtea »

xattt wrote: post #123
bsenftner wrote: post #87

I attended an audience testing screener for Idiocracy before the film's final edit. I could not believe my eyes and ears, I loved it unlike anything I'd seen before, it was the hardest US culture satire I'd seen up to that point. Then the lights came up and the audience started giving their reviews, in an open mike fashion. They all identified with the "idiots" and were indignant insulted, and angry. I remember makin…

It breaks my heart when I hear people outraged about Onion stories, not because that they fall for them, but because they know they have a hard time telling truth from fiction.

The outrageous "impossible/sarcastic" Onion stories from decades ago are hardly fiction these days.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by bdashdash »

bsenftner wrote: post #87

I attended an audience testing screener for Idiocracy before the film's final edit. I could not believe my eyes and ears, I loved it unlike anything I'd seen before, it was the hardest US culture satire I'd seen up to that point. Then the lights came up and the audience started giving their reviews, in an open mike fashion. They all identified with the "idiots" and were indignant insulted, and angry. I remember makin…

I feel Idiocracy is irresistible bait for 'not like the other girls'-types.

Everytime this movie comes up, droves of people mention how they get it, while others don't. It's becoming a trope in itself.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by permalac »

FlufferTheGreat wrote: post #136
jacquesm wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why stop at eugenics? Spoil your environment enough and it will definitely have an effect on the individuals in that environment.

Every scrotum on this forum has microplastics and phthalates in them, things shown to have effects on the endocrine and reproductive systems.

Hold on. Turns out some scientists found out the amount of plastic was over measured because it included the plastic of their own gloves. I've read it last week, can not found the source now. Sorry

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by mwcampbell »

api wrote: post #148
mwcampbell wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then maybe we need to kill mass media once and for all. Keep the global communication network, but let it be all small-scale communities.

You can do that yourself. Turn off mass media. I’ve done that almost entirely. The answer is to be your own survivorship bias. Go dig and find good stuff.

That's fine, if we only care about ourselves. I guess the harder part is convincing everyone else to unplug from mass media and not raise their kids on it.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Post by froggiemeow »

anonymars wrote: post #103
froggiemeow wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tweeted 100 years ago?

What is so special about tweets as though we don't have copious other writings to reference?

I cant reply to jacquesm for some reason, cap on reply chain length maybe? anyway

>There are multiple years of archives of presidential tweets and Trump's stand out, and not in a good way.

When I refer to modern times I mean multiple dozens of years, not mere "multiple years", I already stated these times are unusually sane by historical standards.

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