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AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Post by banjomonster »

jorl17 wrote: post #149

I see many people claiming AI art has no value. I could understand opposing it on an ethical basis. I could even understand it if they claimed that it will dull us out or it just isn't good for the brain, sort of like we can say that tiktok/instagram reels are probably not good for our brains. But to claim that it has no value? Surely my definition of value is just different, and I'm playing semantics. The least-funn…

What recommendations do you have for AI artists doing genuinely interesting work, or good places to find them?

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Post by emmelaich »

fipar wrote: post #113
greedo wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember watching a youtube video that was kind of a Star Wars fan fic. It had a great soundtrack, that was a cross between John Williams and Michael Giacchino. The YouTuber was using some commercial program that included samples of all the orchestral instruments and you could use it to compose lush scores. I never used it since it was expensive, but I always dreamed of tools like that, like GarageBand on steroids…

The code is only a (very important) part of this type of program. The samples are critical and (for the time being anyway) can't be generated by AI. Especially important if you want orchestral instruments that sound realistic. Just think of the many ways that a single note can be played by a professional player and multiply that by the range of the instrument. Edited to add: not orchestral instruments, and also not s…

Is this the vid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YL8pwF7Mnc

Rick Beato travels to NeuralDSP in Finland.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Post by prodigycorp »

notatoad wrote: post #30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQevuohJH8 my music tastes are pretty mainstream, and this just does absolutely nothing for me. it's exactly what i'd expect AI music to sound like - completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it. i'd be willing to believe that this music was legitimately charting if it had at least some redeeming qualities, but i can't imagine how this could honestly get eleven spots on t…

Wow, this song is horribly mastered.

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Post by msephton »

A couple of weeks ago I went to an 'Italian' restaurant. To my surprise, they played a 10-second video loop of an AI-generated stereotypical 'blues' singer with obvious artefacts. The music was a mix of 'blues' with nonsensical lyrics that couldn’t be found online. It was an odd experience. I don't think it was this creation, but it was disconcerting. Felt like Blade Runner isn't too far away.

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Post by rauljordan2020 »

chromacity wrote: post #115

I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…

Sometimes you can't even tell. I was in an uber drive where the driver had this incredible playlist of Brazilian bossa nova. It was sublime and some of the best tracks I ever heard. He even said he loves the singer but cannot find their name anywhere. It turns out it's a youtube playlist that is fully AI generated and genuinely some of the best bossa nova you can imagine. I still hear that playlist daily tbh. Moreover, imagine if you are an independent musician, have a good voice, know how to play instruments...you could ask AI to generate hit tracks for you and then you can play them at concerts or shows and claim them for yourself

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Post by TOMDM »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #119
simmonmt wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you consider say elevator music - music that's just there to fill space, rather than to be listened too - then I don't think there's that much difference between using AI to produce it and using AI to produce clip art or boilerplate code.

Music as wallpaper vs music as artistic paintings. We are fine with mass-producing wallpaper with machines. People buy this every day, no problem. We are not fine with mass-producing framed paintings that are "art". Both hang on the wall as decoration. Essentially the same purpose. But we have very different feelings about them and hold them to very different standards. Music is the same. We have muzak - background m…

I have the sudden urge to frame some wallpaper.

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Post by analog31 »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #101
analog31 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I admit that the bands I play in aren't at a level where we play "shows" with high ticket prices. More often we play in bars that host live jazz. I hope you don't give up on live music, but find a way to enjoy it on terms that you prefer.

You hit upon perhaps the solution to the other commenter's issue - scale back to smaller, local (or near local) bands. Check they local college; they likely have free concerts at their auditorium of a variety of genres, though probably more likely you'll get orchestras and jazz bands (which are great).

I live in a university town, and the free concerts are great. Especially because the students and faculty are most often playing material that I've never heard, including new and experimental stuff.

Over the years it's been hard to avoid noticing that the people who show up for classical and jazz concerts tend to be older. But we're not playing "the music they grew up with." Many of them grew up listening to rock 'n' roll or similar, and when we play an old pop tune, they'll get up and dance.

What I think instead is that they've adjusted their musical tastes to find settings where they can enjoy the performance: Typically quieter, less crowded (though we fill our venues), easier to get in and out of (parking, public transit, etc), and at decent hours.

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Post by rauljordan2020 »

kbelder wrote: post #77
testycool wrote: post #23

I mostly listen to AI-generated music. 8 out of 10 of my top listens in the last 180 days are AI-generated. I gradually went from various genres -> mostly nerdcore -> mostly AI nerdcore. https://www.last.fm/user/testycool/library/tracks?from=2025-... EDIT: Updated link to the most listened songs in the past 180 days. The songs are not generated by me.

I don't like most AI music I've heard, but you shouldn't be voted down for expressing a preference. I do sometimes turn on ambient noise, some of it is randomized and musical (like '88 keys' at mynoise.net). Not AI, just algorithmic, but just because there's no human composer doesn't mean it MUST be condemned.

I feel like now, you can't even tell! I was in an uber drive where the driver had this incredible playlist of Brazilian bossa nova. It was sublime and some of the best tracks I ever heard. He even said he loves the singer but cannot find their name anywhere. It turns out it's a youtube playlist that is fully AI generated and genuinely some of the best bossa nova you can imagine. I still hear that playlist daily tbh. A legitimate, real Brazilian was vibing to a playlist he didn't even know was AI generated...

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Post by jorl17 »

banjomonster wrote: post #151
jorl17 wrote: post #149

I see many people claiming AI art has no value. I could understand opposing it on an ethical basis. I could even understand it if they claimed that it will dull us out or it just isn't good for the brain, sort of like we can say that tiktok/instagram reels are probably not good for our brains. But to claim that it has no value? Surely my definition of value is just different, and I'm playing semantics. The least-funn…

What recommendations do you have for AI artists doing genuinely interesting work, or good places to find them?

Unfortunately these are people in my circles: friends and family. So I cannot bring you any recommendations.

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Post by odo1242 »

vlan0 wrote: post #99
bobthepanda wrote: post #2

The iTunes chart primarily focuses on sales velocity, not streams, and so I wonder how useful that is in 2026 and how easy it is to game.

Likely not a bad way to clean money.

People do it with Steam games, too.
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