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Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by chrysoprace »

ray_v wrote: post #138
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Ok, this sounds awesome, but do you miss the GUI integrations? like , being able to pop a document open in your editor from the desktop? It just feels like it's hard to nail down your preferred workflow / setup ... but it's likely worth it if you're using it daily! Are there any good visual or video demos of using this type of setup? I'm having trouble picturing what makes people really love this type of TUI-only wor…

It's not my kind of workflow but you can download a graphical client like Neovide, which I think has options for opening directly from your file browser.

I typically have a terminal-heavy workflow so it's very rare that I'm browsing to files from within my desktop, but if I am using Dolphin to look for a file I have a "Open terminal here" shortcut and then I'll usually just run "nvim doc.md".

Why not give it a try? You'll likely find that there's an adjustment period and you can always switch back to your old editor if you don't like it. The beauty of it is that you can build it into whatever IDE you want instead of having useless features shoved into your IDE whether you use them or not.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by nixpulvis »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #120
nixpulvis wrote: post #99

My #1 issue with Neovim is the new ! Behavior. Anyone know how to make it toggle the alt terminal screen and just output to the primary screen like it does in Vim?

What are you doing with ! that requires this? Some alternatives I can think of depending on the use case are ^Z or :term.

I do a bunch of stuff with !

!make !ps aux Etc.

The new ! just isn't as useful, and it's harder to get back to see the outputs. The old ! Was just a drop in way quickly do something like ctrl-z command fg.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by g947o »

imjonse wrote: post #62

It probably goes against Vim tradition, culture and freedom to choose, but I wish they added even more built-in features (like Helix) that are currently implemented in competing and sometimes brittle plugins and have to be put together into also competing vim starter packs and distros of plugins and config files just to have a modern setup out of the box.

Which is why I just went with Helix and learned their keybindings. I have much more important things to do than figuring out why a plugin stopped working.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

#155

Post by himata4113 »

ray_v wrote: post #138
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Ok, this sounds awesome, but do you miss the GUI integrations? like , being able to pop a document open in your editor from the desktop? It just feels like it's hard to nail down your preferred workflow / setup ... but it's likely worth it if you're using it daily! Are there any good visual or video demos of using this type of setup? I'm having trouble picturing what makes people really love this type of TUI-only wor…

lazyvim DOES have mouse and GUI-type support. This is a huge myth! I use mouse regulary in neovim and tmux.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by jrumbut »

ray_v wrote: post #138
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Ok, this sounds awesome, but do you miss the GUI integrations? like , being able to pop a document open in your editor from the desktop? It just feels like it's hard to nail down your preferred workflow / setup ... but it's likely worth it if you're using it daily! Are there any good visual or video demos of using this type of setup? I'm having trouble picturing what makes people really love this type of TUI-only wor…

As an aside, it would be straightforward to make vim/neovim the editor that opens when you double click a text file on the desktop.

This kind of setup is at its most powerful when you live on the command line though. For instance, you need to modify .py files across multiple projects that mention a certain variable, have a certain word in their name, and were modified within the last month.

That search is a bit easier in bash/zsh than it is in most IDEs and the strength of vim/neovim is the shell integration.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by nixpulvis »

kps wrote: post #8
benrutter wrote: post #2

Always interesting when a project stays 0 ver for so long- anyone close to the project know what would be considered significant enough for a "v1" release?

Maybe when `:!` works the way vi does and POSIX says it must. Just kidding, that will never happen.

Preach! I tried to point this out in the Neovim discord once and was basically told to pound sand. Very frustrating.

My initial issue: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/35258 The interactive issue: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/1496

I really just want a, do the old thing setting. It was simpler and worked better.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by goosejuice »

g947o wrote: post #153
imjonse wrote: post #62

It probably goes against Vim tradition, culture and freedom to choose, but I wish they added even more built-in features (like Helix) that are currently implemented in competing and sometimes brittle plugins and have to be put together into also competing vim starter packs and distros of plugins and config files just to have a modern setup out of the box.

Which is why I just went with Helix and learned their keybindings. I have much more important things to do than figuring out why a plugin stopped working.

Just pin the plugin or don't use it.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by g947o »

bluepeter wrote: post #132
toisanji wrote: post #28

Is anyone using them vim with Claude or any of these coding tools? I want to, but I haven’t found a good workflow.

Am I misremembering cause I could have sworn that Aider started out as a nvim plugin?? https://github.com/Aider-AI/aider

That project is half dead now. There are commits, but has been no release in half a year, is missing major features (e.g. MCP server), and I haven't seen people talking about it for quite a while.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by himata4113 »

jatora wrote: post #136
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Use windows and leave kernel panics behind :) i can tell you dont actually SSH often by tbe way. Also, tmux doesnt magically reduce resource requirements of your applications

What are you talking about, kernel panics are part of life with consumer hardware. They would happen even if it was windows?

You're right. I don't use SSH that often due to kubernetes, infact I only use ssh for connecting to my desktop to access my tmux sessions and it's great. I know where you're trying to go with this and it's simply not true.

Who said anything about tmux? We're talking about neovim which is extremely light weight and the LSP's don't sit around being active all the time. They have a set duration where they terminate when unused which is simply not possible in most IDE's (LSP based ones are OK, but have problems reconnecting).

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