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Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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Fingers, for instance, not only have higher sensitivity, but also much higher spatial resolution due to the more dense nerve network. I can't tell why other areas may have needed higher spatial resolution; maybe it was evolutionary important in the past, and remains today. Or maybe just adding more nerves due to a random mutation correlated with better reproductive outcomes due to a stronger signal, or higher sensiti…

Wait, so what you’re saying is, we can use our genitals in a pinch that could be as good as fingers for finesse?

Hence the phrase, "Can I use your dictaphone?"

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Is it? Did "all lives matter" help prevent police brutality? Or was it an attempt at whataboutism so you don't have to do anything?

There wasn't really an all lives matter on the same sense as the black lives matter movement. Plus there's 'all lives matter' as in the proponent doesn't want to do anything, and 'all lives matter' as in police brutality is bad no matter who it's aimed at, and should be stopped completely. The latter more closely mirrors the parents example. Further I would say your example is flawed. BLM assumed a level of racism th…

> BLM assumed a level of racism that I don't think there is

Why is your lived experience greater than that of an entire group of people?

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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I am not aware of actual code removal but skirting in that direction there was a movement, just a couple years back, to replace words that had become more offensive than they were in the recent past. One example is renaming master to main . I am not stating any opinion for or against any words or terms in this context.

It's not even "was", that movement still exists. People are still out there trying to remove terms of art on the basis of the theoretical offense felt by an extreme minority of people. It's ridiculous.

Or, it's thoughtful and considerate.

Potato, potahto.

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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I remember that Matteo Realdo Colombo (1515-1559) [1] described the clitoris. There is a novel about the story [2] which was the finalist on one of the top Spanish literary prizes [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realdo_Colombo [2] https://www.amazon.com/Anatomist-Federico-Andahazi/dp/038549... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premio_Planeta_de_Novela

>Many of the contributions made in De Re Anatomica overlapped the discoveries of another anatomist, Gabriele Falloppio, most notably in that both Colombo and Falloppio claimed to have discovered the clitoris.

Lol. Hard to take that statement serious.

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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There's a fair amount of modern/modernist-era thinking about bending the chaos of humanity to meet rigid ideal social structures, from about the late nineteenth to late twentieth century. And to be clear, the chaos of the early industrial period led to marked declines in public health, sanitation and the like. Some of these innovations worked reasonably well (the standardization of healthcare and schooling), some of…

The left are accused of this far more often than the right are, even though the right own think tanks like Heritage, mega churches,mega news channels like Fox, large parts of academia (esp. economics and MBA culture), most of the lobbying machinery, and most of the bot farms. While I think the suggestion - popular with left wing academics - that society can be engineered towards perfect fairness from a blank slate is…

I specifically didn’t mention left vs right because I agree. At least in the postwar era this was mostly done via Rockefeller Republicans in the US, who were okay with popular big spending programs but used them as a means to an end. Think highway building clearing out poor and minority neighborhoods, or making sure that public housing isn’t too comfortable.

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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Bias towards women would be understood by most readers as favouring them. I would have written bias against women here.

> Bias towards women would be understood by most readers as favouring them. We run in different circles I guess.

It's a word that's commonly used incorrectly, yes.

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Page 7 [0] of the report seems to indicate that FGM reconstruction actually seems to have negative outcomes post-surgery. I'm surprised by this. I'm also shocked to see how prolific FGM is too (230 million women?!). [0]: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.18.712572v1...

> I'm also shocked to see how prolific FGM is too (230 million women?!) And talk to any gyn doc in the west: it's happening among those communities in the west too (but on a lesser scale). In several EU western countries the most common gynelogical surgery act is re-building the hymen (so that the woman can pretend she's a virgin once she marries, often forcibly by her family). You may not have gyn doctors friend but…

Saudi Arabia does not do FGM. What does that tell you?

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> the clitoris did not even make it into standard anatomy textbooks until the 38th edition of Gray’s Anatomy was published in 1995. This seemed surprising, as it hews too close to an annoying meme in feminism and history generally, that people in prior eras were idiots. And it turns out to be wrong. The clitoris was in Gray's Anatomy until 1947, when it was removed by the editor Charles Goss for the 25th edition. See…

They weren't idiots. And one doesn't have to give Goss the benefit of the doubt, nor his successors. The ensuing 50 years of omission are a clear admission of what the goal was and is. It is the year of our Lord 2026, men proximate to power are openly speculating about the removal of the vote from all women, the end of no-fault divorce, and laws to enforce a birth rate that increases the prevalence of white skin. Non…

pembrook has replied that the deletion of the clitoris from Gray's Anatomy is "an internet myth" (but I can't reply to their message, as it has been flagged). They then cited a published paper (Hear Read This), which I scoured to find a reference claiming the size of the clitoris was diminished in some editions (!), but never deleted entirely.

This put enough fire under me to look it up, hoping to prove pembrook wrong. I admit I wanted this feminist-persecution "fact" to be true.

The Internet Archive has one copy in the suspect period (post-1943), the 1944 28th edition by T. B. Johnston. It contains an entry for 'Clitoris' in the index, with 5-6 subheadings about the structure. Clearly, not deleted.

Screenshot of the index in question: https://imgur.com/a/qFfn9gr

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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> the clitoris did not even make it into standard anatomy textbooks until the 38th edition of Gray’s Anatomy was published in 1995. This seemed surprising, as it hews too close to an annoying meme in feminism and history generally, that people in prior eras were idiots. And it turns out to be wrong. The clitoris was in Gray's Anatomy until 1947, when it was removed by the editor Charles Goss for the 25th edition. See…

> The clitoris was in Gray's Anatomy until 1947, when it was removed by the editor Charles Gross for the 25th edition. This is also false [1]. One guy didn't wake up one day in 1947 and decide to remove all references to the clitoris in Gray's anatomy. It's yet another version of the same internet myth, the goal being to caricature people in the past as cartoonishly evil and misogynistic. Please never use Huffington…

Please also don't ask people to Here, Read This on a lengthy citation with no direction.

The item I presume you are intending them to notice is the green-shaded Table 1, 3rd and 4th instances of the word "clitoris" in that paper. It basically supports your claim: HuffPost posted a false "fact".

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> the clitoris did not even make it into standard anatomy textbooks until the 38th edition of Gray’s Anatomy was published in 1995. This seemed surprising, as it hews too close to an annoying meme in feminism and history generally, that people in prior eras were idiots. And it turns out to be wrong. The clitoris was in Gray's Anatomy until 1947, when it was removed by the editor Charles Goss for the 25th edition. See…

Being removed for versions 25 to 38… honestly confirms the feminist narrative of some people being idiots, though. Like, imagine documentation on object oriented programming being removed because it offended some functional programming folks.

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