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How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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In English, "America" means the USA specifically. But you knew that already and decided to just post bait.

So was Trump being inclusive or exclusive when he renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America?

Instead, try commenting in good faith.

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I don't really know how Passkeys or Apple Keychain works. But regardless I would think there has to be some other step to go from merely knowing a password to being able to access a cloud account (which includes the Keychain), no? Are you saying that you can throw your phone in the ocean, have access to no other devices (including a SIM card), obtain a new phone, input your email+password, and reliably have that new…

That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s worked that way since 2011. If you go into the Apple Store or your carrier, they hand you new phone, you log in to your iCloud account and it asks you which back up you want to use if you have multiple backups. You might these days have to enter your passcode from your old device. You or they call your carrier or depending on your carrier you can register your e-sim directly from…

Well it's certainly not that way in Android+GApps land, which is why I wrote my original comment.

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It's so wierd to perceive that as arrogance. Actually "wierd" is being too nice.

In your world, then, is it normal to complain about other people's names, and expect them to change what they call themselves to better suit your preference?

Again, wierd. No one is doing that. But for some reason you decide that someone has done something to you, or done anything at all to anyone.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Only go to good parts. Like Mexico and South America in general.

In English, "America" means the USA specifically. But you knew that already and decided to just post bait.

Times are a changing. We can change the English language on this matter too (or more accurately, it might end up changing).

It is something that needs correcting tbh. The USA does not own the Americas.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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or, perhaps, they are wryly pushing back against the USA capturing a generic geographic term for themselves

To be fair though, that horse bolted a couple of centuries ago. What other name would you call it by? There's another "united states" on the same continent. The country to the immediate south is formally known as the "United Mexican States".

How about its real name, the USA? Crazy idea I know

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Don't carry them with you. I'm old and I can tell you from experience... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think.

>It's not as hard as you think. You're probably right, still... I often wonder how I survived going for a random drive or even simply leaving the house from 1980 through to the advent of smart phones. Was I simply more brave and self-sufficient back then? But then I note that there was some infrastructure and also some attitude differences back then that don't exist now. When my car would break down in the 1980s or 1…

> Was I simply more brave and self-sufficient back then?

Probably! A good reason to exercise those skills again

> (I'm not sure anyone would let a random stranger into their home now, but maybe they still do).

Curious what makes you think that. Perhaps as an exercise, do something that requires asking a favour of someone. You might be pleasantly surprised. Despite all the ills in society, faith can be restored be some amazing interactions with people offline

> So I just left and found another place to park

That's exactly the right response. Being late sucked but hopefully just a once off .

> Maybe I am not less brave but just more cheap.

This is honestly unsaid in a lot of these discussions! The non phone methods can be a bit more expensive. It's a good point but sometimes the difference isn't huge

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Don't carry them with you. I'm old and I can tell you from experience... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think.

I've done a fair bit of domestic (USA) flying over the last six months and when flights are spontaneously cancelled for weather/staffing/crew timeouts/random apocalyptic actions, a phone has been priceless in getting quickly rebooked and out of the trouble zone. Even if that means cancelling the flight and buying a ticket on a different airline (looking at you, AA) You do not want to spend an hour in the customer ser…

I'm sad we've just accepted that no useful staff at the airport is an acceptable state of affairs.

They're full of outsourced agents whose contracts are very specific and don't include things like assisting customers during IRROPS, as I understand it. Or they have their hands tied by the airlines

I'd like government intervention now that the free market has failed - there is almost no choice you can make that offers real customer service

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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The usual fare: log out, disable biometrics, use long pins and passwords, power off. Prefer a burner device, or clean your device and restore when you arrive. I remember how Google's internal guidelines for travel circa 2011 required to remove any material under NDA from your laptop when traveling to China or Russia; you had to restore it over the VPN after a safe arrival. Funny that now the same precautions apply to…

Do you need to disable biometrics if you simply reboot? my Pixel 10 Pro XL wont let me in without pin after reboot. Biometrics wont work until that first unlock.

The guidelines also say that if the border agents of China or Russia ask you point blank, to give them access. It is not worth risking your personal safety for your device. That includes your PIN and password, and in China and Russia's case, whether or not that's actually allowed by law.

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>Unlike in Mexico there was no pre-colonial, indigenous empire that had ruled and named the land which eventually became the 13 colonies. Actually, there were multiple indigenous political entities both along the Eastern Seaboard (where we find those 13 colonies) as well as across what is now the US and Canada[0]. We just took their land and killed most of them, but they were still pretty organized -- with political…

Where's the Tenochtitlan of the 13 colonies? Of course colonists committed genocide against indigenous people everywhere they went. No one's denying that. I'm addressing precisely what you yourself said > there were multiple indigenous political entities both along the Eastern Seaboard They were fragmented and smaller than the Aztec empire. That doesn't make it right to take their land. It does explain why their name…

What about all the non-western colonists?

What about Iran? Iran was conquered by muslims. So should we conquer it and kick muslims out because it wasn't ok to take that land? What about every muslim country? Muslims stole mecca from the Jews, as is extensively detailed in muslim history books. Should it be conquered and returned?

What about China? The kingdoms did most of the conquering of course, then "unification" took their land and then communists did ethnic cleansing until Han Chinese were in most places all that's left. Hell, a number of the people they cleansed aren't even gone yet. There are still Tibetans. There are plenty of original Hong Kong'ers still alive.

What about Russia? What about North Africa? What about ...

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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post #41

The usual fare: log out, disable biometrics, use long pins and passwords, power off. Prefer a burner device, or clean your device and restore when you arrive. I remember how Google's internal guidelines for travel circa 2011 required to remove any material under NDA from your laptop when traveling to China or Russia; you had to restore it over the VPN after a safe arrival. Funny that now the same precautions apply to…

This has been the recommendation when traveling to the US since 2001, only that the worry was NSA rather than ICE.

The procedure that I got recommended in 2005 was to install a second fresh operative system (preferable windows) on the laptop on a separate partition/disk, make a copy of the old boot partition and disk encryption headers, encrypt the copy and store it online for later retrieval, and then overwrite the old boot with the new installation. Make sure to leave the old partitions alone.

The restore is then as simple as downloading the encrypted backup, decrypt and dd it back in place. Repeat the process before taking the trip back. It was advisable to test the processes before to familiarize yourself to it, and to use the fresh installation a bit so it wasn't completely blank.

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