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Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by shrikant »

everforward wrote: post #82
Eji1700 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could sorta see a situation where the reality is "we're in the middle of a miserable transition and it'll clean up when we're done" but I don't think anyone has confidence that's all it is at this point.

Even that doesn’t really make sense to me, unless they’ve done it in a way where everything has to move at once. Everywhere I’ve worked, if a migration is causing this much downtime then you kill the migration or slow it down. If every change has a 10% chance of bringing the site down, you only do a change every week or two until you can work out the kinks.

...or you keep fighting forward with the migration, because if it's seen as a failure then some pretty big heads will have to roll...

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

I'm surprised nobody has tried to throw together a commercial alternative to GitHub. 50% of it is available as FOSS, the other 50% you can vibecode in a month (you can vibecode reliably, Microsoft/Google just suck at it). Afaict, reason we all keep using GitHub is it has a million features and isn't as ugly, difficult and slow as GitLab. (sorry GitLab, I love your handbook, hate your UX)

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by jmtulloss »

kenhwang wrote: post #72
inaros wrote: post #3

Every day more Microsofty...they should rename to "Your Repository Needs To Restart To Apply Updates"

I wonder what the average career tenure of the userbase here is now, because Github was slow and flaky well before Microsoft got involved. Maybe it wasn't as noticeable when Github had less features, but our CI runners and other automation using the API a decade ago always had weekly issues caused by Github being down/degraded.

The best stretch Github ever had was post-acquisition when Nat Friedman as CEO.

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by conception »

jwoq9118 wrote: post #139
Barrin92 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It’s existential for us to keep up with the demands of AI and Copilot if by chance the CTO reads this, as a user of GitHub I would find it really existential if GitHub continues functioning as a reliable hub for git workflows (hence the name), and I have the strong suspicion nobody except for the shareholders gives a lick about copilot or 'AI' if it makes the core service the site was designed for unusable

For GitHub to remain profitable they have to appease those shareholders you mentioned.

Incorrect. They need to appease/trick/threaten/etc those that are paying for their services. Shareholders just demand they do so at the greatest (often short term) rate.

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by denkmoon »

jwoq9118 wrote: post #139
Barrin92 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It’s existential for us to keep up with the demands of AI and Copilot if by chance the CTO reads this, as a user of GitHub I would find it really existential if GitHub continues functioning as a reliable hub for git workflows (hence the name), and I have the strong suspicion nobody except for the shareholders gives a lick about copilot or 'AI' if it makes the core service the site was designed for unusable

For GitHub to remain profitable they have to appease those shareholders you mentioned.

Why? What is the correlation between profit and shareholder sentiment (besides the fact that shareholders want said profits)? They don't really influence the operation of the business meaningfully.

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by ncruces »

Barrin92 wrote: post #127
spondyl wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here are some relevant excerpts from an October 2025 article[1]: > In a message to GitHub’s staff, CTO Vladimir Fedorov notes that GitHub is constrained on capacity in its Virginia data center. “It’s existential for us to keep up with the demands of AI and Copilot, which are changing how people use GitHub,” he writes. > The plan, he writes, is for GitHub to completely move out of its own data centers in 24 months. “T…

>It’s existential for us to keep up with the demands of AI and Copilot if by chance the CTO reads this, as a user of GitHub I would find it really existential if GitHub continues functioning as a reliable hub for git workflows (hence the name), and I have the strong suspicion nobody except for the shareholders gives a lick about copilot or 'AI' if it makes the core service the site was designed for unusable

AI and Copilot increase the load on git workflows.

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by ivanjermakov »

proc0 wrote: post #71

It's starting to really look like the AI effect. It might be coincidence but I've noticed a lot more downtime and bad software lately. The last Nvidia drivers gave me a blue screen (last week or so), and speaking about Windows, I froze updates last year because it was clear they were introducing a bunch of issues with every update (not to mention unwanted features). I like AI but actually not for coding because code…

I bet on rushed Azure migration. A lot can go wrong it devops.

Re: GitHub is once again down

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Post by 0x457 »

nine_k wrote: post #88
merlindru wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub has always been incredibly outage riddled no? This is not a MSFT thing

I don't remember that happening so much (if ever) in, say, 2016. But the frequency of noticeable incidents seemingly has been rising steadily since around 2023. The Azure migration apparently only exacerbated it.

I remember seeing unicorn daily and "webhook delivery delayed" weekly. I think it got better, but also they got more traffic, now millions of agents read files separately over and over again.

IMO it's much better now.

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