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Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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why are common people paying for the incompetence of a gvt. to not be political this lies at the heart of principles, morals, meritocracy values that the current gvt lacks & things that drove america forward.

Because it's the government they voted in. Typical American take. Wanting no responsibility for the adverse effects of your decision.

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Has there been any official WH note on the need for this war, yet? Or objectives?

This war is not a war. Not a.war war. Just a "war". No war has been declared.

It's a special operation

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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I worked in the Pentagon for 10 years, and got my beak wet with neural nets there very early, back when we were using Playstation 3s for their GPUs. I was staunchly against the Iraq war, but even when Bush was president I didn't let it compromise my patriotism. The amount of people on here who ignore the fact that Iran was the primary enabler of Hamas' attack on 10/7/23, and therefore sowed the seeds of the destructi…

I highly disagree, one clear thing conservatives and liberals largely agree on is no more wars in the Middle East. It’s astonishing to me that Trump supporters who voted for an isolationist policy are happy with him intervening in the Middle East (not to mention South America) again.

Yes, I am “reactively” hating our president for starting wars without congressional approval and with very handwavy explanations. Besides, he has a track record for saying whatever the fuck he wants if he thinks people will like it, so you can’t trust the words from his mouth anyways. It’s pretty infuriating, actually.

I would be much happier if there was a clear justification and rational explanation for the president starting more wars in the Middle East. And yes, because Biden has a slightly better baseline of not telling bold-faced lies, I could see more people giving the benefit of the doubt at first. But overall, liberals did not like Biden very much. Trump, on the other hand, has a pretty hardcore base of people who don’t seem to care what he says or that he does/says the opposite of what he used to say. Pretty weird.

By the way, this opinion is not formed by reading or listening to any kind of mainstream media. It’s formed from listening to the words coming out of Trump’s mouth for the past fucking decade.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Trump is but a symptom of an underlying sickness. Things won't magically go back to normal after he dies.

Very few other people have Trump's ability to channel frustration in a nonspecific-but-charismatic way that connects the various extreme factions of the American right. None of those factions will be gone, but their battles will weaken their cause more than they have since 2016. Some of this can be seen by how even his own popularity falls any time he actually has power, since there are no effective ideas there, only…

> Trump's ability to channel frustration in a nonspecific-but-charismatic way

If Trump is the most charismatic political personality America has to offer...

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Very few other people have Trump's ability to channel frustration in a nonspecific-but-charismatic way that connects the various extreme factions of the American right. None of those factions will be gone, but their battles will weaken their cause more than they have since 2016. Some of this can be seen by how even his own popularity falls any time he actually has power, since there are no effective ideas there, only…

The extreme factions of the right are a very small portion of the electorate. They generally don't decide elections beyond the primaries and generally turn out in favor of the right regardless. Dems lean more on moderates/independents. Trump won because he persuaded that group, particularly the young men. https://www.thirdway.org/memo/why-republicans-can-win-with-t...

25-33% of the electorate is no small fraction. There's a group of people who have been consistently supportive of this government's policies since 2016. Take any policy survey, and the fraction that supports the right-wing side of action always amounts to a consistent 25-33% of the votes.

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> Texas or Arizona or North Carolina or Florida All Red states. So if you roll over and let the federal government trample your state's sovereignty, they won't murder people in your state? Somehow I don't think that's what federalism was supposed to mean. Trump nearly passed out with glee when he was talking to the Ukrainian president and found out elections are canceled, by their law, due to martial law because of t…

Seriously, it’s totally fair to think that there’s no way they’ll be cancelled. There are some checks and balances left. But if you voted for Trump, you should be DEEPLY concerned about how much he loves toying with the idea. It’s frankly more impeachable than nearly anything I’ve heard of, since it’d be fucking treasonous to cancel elections. Demand better from your representatives and officials, and stop voting MAGA so we can get out of this mess.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

#158
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why are common people paying for the incompetence of a gvt. to not be political this lies at the heart of principles, morals, meritocracy values that the current gvt lacks & things that drove america forward.

Because it's the government they voted in. Typical American take. Wanting no responsibility for the adverse effects of your decision.

I'm American, I didn't vote for Trump, so I don't feel like it's me dealing with adverse effects of my decisions.

I did vote for Eric Adams in NYC, and while Eric Adams didn't advertise blatant corruption as part of his campaign, insofar that I can be blamed for his idiocy and bribes I will accept responsibility. I didn't vote for him the second time around and I feel foolish for voting for him the first time.

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> duties they haven't been trained to perform Which implies they've been trained?

Fair, they haven’t. I wonder how long it will take them to use tear gas when the line at a Starbucks kiosk gets a little too long.

I fear the day when that happens.

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I worked in the Pentagon for 10 years, and got my beak wet with neural nets there very early, back when we were using Playstation 3s for their GPUs. I was staunchly against the Iraq war, but even when Bush was president I didn't let it compromise my patriotism. The amount of people on here who ignore the fact that Iran was the primary enabler of Hamas' attack on 10/7/23, and therefore sowed the seeds of the destructi…

> Basically, if Trump does a thing, they are against it, independent of the thing. Because on top of doing terrible things, the non-terrible things he does, he does incredibly badly . > There is no principle, just reactionary hatred. No, we’re all good little Bayesians around here. > If Biden had launched this war, none of these people would have had a problem with it. You’re really missing what’s going on here. The…

> The reason that people liked Biden is that he would not have launched this war.

No, they liked him because he wasn’t Trump. And then they liked Trump more after having him.

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