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Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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Re: Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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Zuckerberg wants a cyberpunk future, not some 3D immersive HR department on your face.

I think to him those are the same thing. If he wanted an imaginative environment he'd be in VRChat.

VRChat is what you would point at to justify the creation of Horizon Worlds, while saying “it is just too creepy for normies”.

Neither of those extremes are tolerable.

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It’s wild how much mismanagement Zuck is able to get away with just because he controls majority voting shares in Meta. At this point all of the missteps by the company in AR/VR, AI and everything else can directly be traced back to him. Half-baked vision, massive spending and no accountability. The company desperately needs a Sundar/Satya type leader.

>The company desperately needs a Sundar/Satya type leader. For the sake of the world's sanity, I'd rather see them go belly up.

Yea, we're all lucky that the company is so badly managed and lacks vision and execution. If they were visionary, competent and effective, Meta products would be an even bigger menace and more destructive than they already are.

Re: Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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That's okay - it felt cartoony and, I imagine it wasn't the reason why the vast majority of people bought the Quest anyway.

Plenty of people use the 'cartoony' parts of VRChat and even have Quest devices entirely for it. The difference comes down to, well, VRChat just being the plain superior product in almost every regard, especially for social spaces, even after Meta set huge amounts of money on fire with Horizon Worlds.

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> But Google actually knows how to do research and how to apply it to products. I have seen basically no evidence of this. Google knows how to do research to create technology. Google is pretty terrible at creating product though.

Which is almost word for word the state Microsoft have been in for over 20 years. To the point it was a running joke at MSR.

I'm not sure Microsoft is good at creating technology OR products. Microsoft is good at enterprise sales.

Re: Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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Unbelievable. They re-architected the whole operating system around this stupid app. They discontinued their previous homescreen environments in favor of trying to promote Horizon Worlds, only to discontinue the blasted thing anyway? After all of those millions of dollars spent trying to make virtual events happen?

They also renamed the entire corporation from "Facebook" to "Meta" to prove how serious they were about it.

Don't worry, they'll rename themselves LLaMeBook next, and this time will be different!

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I was at Intel for a while and there was one glaring problem - they have one product that spins off a huge amount of cash. This means a few things: First, that one product is really where the things that matter happen. But second, they have all this money and they don't know what to do with it, they can't spend it all on their core product because that looks terrible - they're already throwing off money, investing mo…

Sounds a lot like Google as well

In 2026 we need to update our mental model of Google. Google has been wildly successful at adding diversification. Around 40% of Google’s profit (depending on the quarter) comes from non-search income.

They build a wildly successful cloud platform, they’re expanding their subscription services, they’ve got enterprise offerings, etc

The trick is that Google accepted that none of their other business would likely have the margins and volume that search has, but they did it anyways.

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They also renamed the entire corporation from "Facebook" to "Meta" to prove how serious they were about it.

While simultaneously renaming the VR headsets to also use Meta branding instead of Oculus, even though Oculus was a great brand and the most recognizable name in the VR industry. What made it worse is that by that point they'd produced lots of headsets with Oculus branding, including an Oculus button on one of the controllers. So, they had to change that button to also have a different logo and name, and have the sof…

Funnily enough, it did end up as the next NFTs, just not in the way they hoped

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Interesting, cutting way back in the product they renamed the whole company for. They feel a bit directionless to me. They are still making money but even their AI attempt feels half hearted. I think they are really trying but I’m not sure they can build the engineering muscle to move in new areas with the brand damage they’ve sustained.

The Meta/Oculus bet was never about VR or gaming. It is to solve Zuck's greatest fear of being beholden to platforms controlled by others. What it was supposed to be was basically what Microsoft missed out on with mobile, losing to Google and Apple. VR and AR could be that next platform to own and control. They would love to have all the data that Google and Apple enjoy. That's what Quest -> Horizon was about, change…

I still find it funny that Apple did exactly the usual Apple thing of coming in way later and yet inventing a UX for this kind of stuff good enough that Meta immediately started scrambling to copy it.

Re: Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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Unbelievable. They re-architected the whole operating system around this stupid app. They discontinued their previous homescreen environments in favor of trying to promote Horizon Worlds, only to discontinue the blasted thing anyway? After all of those millions of dollars spent trying to make virtual events happen?

They rebuilt half of their company around this thing and countless people saw promotions all around.
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