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MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by rescripting »

conception wrote: post #140
epistasis wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever I see Alex Karp speak I wonder why they can't even pretend to put on sheep's clothing. It says a lot about the breakdown of current US society and democracy that Palantir's leadership feels free to speak in the way that they do. People will not forget, because we all suspected that they were like this, but when given a tiny bit of power by electing a transient and weak president, they pulled their masks off…

It seems clear that the assumptions they are working off is that they will not be restored.

Not just an assumption, but a goal. If some semblance of democratic society returns they know they’ll be held accountable, so they’ll fight with every means available to prevent that from happening.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by rsynnott »

bilbo0s wrote: post #78
dlev_pika wrote: post #65

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Fascism puts a heavy emphasis on aesthetics

Italian fascists did have fashion forward uniforms. So did the German Nazis back then now I think about it. Maybe there is something with cult-like thinking, fascist or not, where the aesthetics seduces more people into wanting to be a part of it all?

Oh, it was 100% marketing.

It's not just fascists, either; totalitarian regimes _in general_ tend to be very keen on this sort of thing.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by cm2012 »

prox wrote: post #135
iso1631 wrote: post #128

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https://www.ft.com/content/fc1e7e9a-9d5d-4217-b9b2-38069eb11... > US tech billionaire and Maga donor Peter Thiel is starting a series of closed-door lectures about the antichrist in Rome on Sunday, putting him on a collision course with Pope Leo XIV, the Catholic Church’s first American pontiff. This sort of stuff might go down well with fundamentalists in america, but it has no place in the advanced world.

How is this not shut down in any form? This is actual insanity.

Why is it any of our business what this guy says in his free time if it's not advocating for violence?

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by usrusr »

hermitcrab wrote: post #99

It is a complete no-brainer that Thiel and his minions shouldn't be let anywhere near anything health or security related.

In Germany we have a term for entities headed by people who publicly say things Thiel and his gang say. It's verfassungsfeindliche Organisation. I really don't understand how they can still be considered government suppliers to purchase from. Just because they are on the stock exchange and not some secret conspiracy? (they are not on the stock exchange)

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by gzread »

usrusr wrote: post #154
hermitcrab wrote: post #99

It is a complete no-brainer that Thiel and his minions shouldn't be let anywhere near anything health or security related.

In Germany we have a term for entities headed by people who publicly say things Thiel and his gang say. It's verfassungsfeindliche Organisation. I really don't understand how they can still be considered government suppliers to purchase from. Just because they are on the stock exchange and not some secret conspiracy? (they are not on the stock exchange)

It's simple - nobody actually cares about the constitution.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by onraglanroad »

gzread wrote: post #155
usrusr wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany we have a term for entities headed by people who publicly say things Thiel and his gang say. It's verfassungsfeindliche Organisation. I really don't understand how they can still be considered government suppliers to purchase from. Just because they are on the stock exchange and not some secret conspiracy? (they are not on the stock exchange)

It's simple - nobody actually cares about the constitution.

The UK doesn't have a constitution.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by rsynnott »

cjs_ac wrote: post #2

TIL that the head of Palantir's UK arm is the grandson of Sir Oswald Mosley, founder and leader of the British Union of Fascists in the 1930s.

... I'm sorry, what?

If this was a political drama, that would be written out on the basis that it wasn't believable.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by gzread »

onraglanroad wrote: post #156
gzread wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's simple - nobody actually cares about the constitution.

The UK doesn't have a constitution.

Germany does, and that's what verfassungsfeindlich refers to. Germany also uses Palantir.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by onraglanroad »

cm2012 wrote: post #153
prox wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this not shut down in any form? This is actual insanity.

Why is it any of our business what this guy says in his free time if it's not advocating for violence?

Because he made it our business by deliberately making it public.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Post by [deleted] »

usrusr wrote: post #154
hermitcrab wrote: post #99

It is a complete no-brainer that Thiel and his minions shouldn't be let anywhere near anything health or security related.

In Germany we have a term for entities headed by people who publicly say things Thiel and his gang say. It's verfassungsfeindliche Organisation. I really don't understand how they can still be considered government suppliers to purchase from. Just because they are on the stock exchange and not some secret conspiracy? (they are not on the stock exchange)

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