I always find it sad that they just seem to copy the crap Microsoft does. When I see the ribbon I am already out.
Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Excel is pretty stable.. I guess it could be those specific sheets doing something odd.
I think it's a factor of things, but Excel isn't as stable as it once was. My friends spreadsheets include: - Row count ~100k - Column count ~1k - The usual vlookup, etc. formulae. - Oracle extensions that sync tables to databases in the cloud.
Just like in many other cases, in-proc extensions might be easier to implement, or have lower resource demands than OS IPC, but than it has such unpleasent experiences, I bet those Oracle extensions in C, C++, COM, are to blame.
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#153Pretty scammy name and no info on who’s behind it.
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#154What's wrong with LibreOffice? What benefits this has?
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#155As long as they keep using Macs, iPhones and Apple watches.
That'll show those pesky Americans.
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#156Is this by some random company that happens to rent an address in Hague? And even that is uncertain because there's no actual address except a vague OSM pin. And no company name either. This seems untrustworthy, double so for a product that claims to prioritize transparency. > Our headquarters are in The Netherlands (The Hague). Contact us to book a meeting or ask any questions. source: https://office.eu/contact
In their Privacy Policy [1], Section 8:
> Office.EU is a service offered and operated by EUfforic Europe BV, registered with the Dutch chamber of commerce under registration number 98746243 and having its address at Dr. Kuyperstraat 10-A at (2514 BB) The Hague, the Netherlands.
[1]: Link to PDF, no HTML version: https://hel1.your-objectstorage.com/officeeuaa001/officeeu-p...
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#157I laud the attempt and I think it's important there are more projects that try to compete with their American counterparts. I do want to gently note that if your entire pitch is "we are a bold, independent European alternative that liberates you from the hegemony of the established American players," maybe don't name your product the exact same thing as the product you're replacing? "Office." They named it "Office."
Office is a software category. Just because one competitor names things as "the car"(TM) doesn't mean you can't call your vehicle a car. Also it is (was) actually called Microsoft Office for a reason, because it is the Office software from Microsoft.
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#158The EU tech ecosystem is sadder every day
The problem is that every attempt at European alternatives is taken at the government level (of some member country or of the EU) and immediately announced with great fanfare as the European comeback. The pathetic thing about it is that everybody who isn't totally clueless sees how utterly inadequate these attempts are, given the political involvement, the microscopic resources invested, the lack of incentives from c…
This is not "government level" in any way. It's a small company nobody has ever heard of.
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#159I laud the attempt and I think it's important there are more projects that try to compete with their American counterparts. I do want to gently note that if your entire pitch is "we are a bold, independent European alternative that liberates you from the hegemony of the established American players," maybe don't name your product the exact same thing as the product you're replacing? "Office." They named it "Office."
> maybe don't name your product the exact same thing as the product you're replacing? "Office." They named it "Office." Surely you mean "Microsoft 365 Copilot"? (I am not making this up. That is what it is called now.) Realistically, though, I think pretty much _all_ office suites have been called [Something] Office, for about the last 30 years. The Google one ("Google Workplace", formerly "Google Apps") is the only…
That isn't true, but I don't blame anyone for not understanding what Microsoft marketing is doing in terms of branding.
See for example: https://www.theverge.com/tech/856149/microsoft-365-office-re... or https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2026/01/11/office-is...
Microsoft Office still exists, the current version being Microsoft Office 2024 for Mac & Windows. But THIS Office is the the non-subscription version of Office, this is not the cloud-connected Apps being offered via Microsoft 365. This version of Office doesn't get all the latest cloud features and stuff happening in the subscription versions.
The cloud version of Office meanwhile is being renamed left and right. The office.com homepage now redirects to Copilot and is rebranded as Microsoft 365 Copilot just like you said. If you have any M365 business or enterprise plan Office is actually called "Microsoft 365 apps for business/enterprise".
Now why the Microsoft marketing team is adamant on changing and mucking about with such a long standing brand as "Microsoft Office" nobody understands.
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#160Is this by some random company that happens to rent an address in Hague? And even that is uncertain because there's no actual address except a vague OSM pin. And no company name either. This seems untrustworthy, double so for a product that claims to prioritize transparency. > Our headquarters are in The Netherlands (The Hague). Contact us to book a meeting or ask any questions. source: https://office.eu/contact
Yea the FAQ does not give a good impression. "The Premium and Ultimate plans offer EU Talk for larger meetings up to ● users."
Default Talk copies all streams to all users meaning it can handle a small numbers of concurrent users. There's some sort of a broadcast (plus Stun, nat etc) solution that allows it to scale. They are probably charging for that.