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RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#151
A few months ago I upgraded a Windows laptop I use in my 3d printer studio from 32gb to 64gb. I let the memory I pulled out sit on the desk, and just got around to selling it last week. I sold it on eBay for twice what the 64gb kit cost new. In almost 30 years of upgrading all sorts of machines, I can't remember if I've ever performed an upgrade and turned a profit out of it.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#152

fking can't understand this one... I mean, it's much cheaper to buy 2x8gb than 1x16gb or even 1x32gb (and 2x8gb is faster than 1x16gb..) are these people idiots??? ram-slots are computer real-estates

"I'd like 32G but I can't afford 2x16G right now so I'll buy a single stick and keep a slot open for later when prices are better or I get more available money". Seems pretty easy to understand.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#153
This article is using "fake" for click-bait purposes, implying some kind of scam, in fact it's just a filler RGB stick to make pretty lights inside your case, nothing nefarious about it and it's clear when you buy, but probably wouldn't be featured on HN without it.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#154
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I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

I have absolutely no interest in RGB anything in my computer. Yet I've occasionally ended up with all these RGB parts -- RGB LED on my mouse, RGB RAM sticks, RGB GPU -- just because it's the best alternative right then and there, it's wild. It's at the point where you sometimes have to go with a worse price/performance option or otherwise suboptimal choice just to avoid the stupid useless little RGB LEDs.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m also “old” (44) and feel that rainbow LEDs are gaudy. Seems these days that they’re not optional for most things remotely gaming related (e.g. motherboards, graphics cards) , but fortunately can generally be disabled or if illumination is useful (e.g for a keyboard), they can be configured to be white only, which was useful for the Steel Series keyboard I purchased. (I wouldn’t recommend Steel Series keyboards th…

I wanted to go RGB free when I built my desktop, but ran into the exact issue you describe. I kinda just shrugged and accepted it, but maybe I should have looked more deeply into their configurability. Off or all white would be a much better look IMO

On my ASUS TUF motherboard there is simply an option in the BIOS to turn off the LEDs.

It’s an old motherboard though, bought in 2018, but I would expect the option to be available on new ones too.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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post #53

I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

You people are just old and cranky. I’ve loved LEDs ever since I first saw a red one light up in the 80s (we didn’t have blue ones then.)

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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post #53

I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

Two things that strike me.

One is the "when everyone is special, no one is special" factor, but I think that's tempered a bit by PCs becoming a status item (alongside the rise of streaming that shows the streamer and their environment) so it's important the PC is conspicuous. Also for those that have invested significant time/money it has become a point of pride for them that they want to display, and get into flamewars on the internet to defend their team. The manufacturers probably don't mind that it lets them display their brand in lights too and not be hidden away as a sticker or PCB marking.

Also that there seems to be space in the market for 'PC as a pretty lightbox', RGB systems are sophisticated now alongside LCD systems getting attached to various components. The PC becomes a decoration as opposed to a tool that fades into the background like a lot of other devices which are pure display or have enthusiasts salivating about thinner bezels. The thing I find curious is that the lightbox is constrained in the form of a PC (even if they sometimes try hard to hide the machinery of it such as wires or putting components on PCBs hidden behind panels), there's not a lot of consumer products where you could assemble elaborate colored lighting displays.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#159

I don't get it. Isn't 2x8gb faster than 1x16gb since it will run in dual channel? And shouldn't smaller capacity sticks be cheaper since they can use lower density chips?

Up to a certain point and It’s actually very dependent on the CPU. Take Epyc processors. On certain ones, after certain RAM amount, populating all the slots causes the cpu to kick the RAM speed to a lower tier. You’re then limited to capacities of two sticks. Weird, but it has to do with power requirements. Abutting above the threshold had to be buffered, which increases latency.

I have a fully populated server with 2x7K62 and 16x64GB (3200 mhz) for my home lab. Do you know how to check if I am affected by this?
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