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E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by hypeatei »

query_demotion wrote: post #144
Spooky23 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is building out the infrastructure for a police state. The people who control the consolidated tech platforms are either spearheading or collaborating with that process. Privacy as a concept isn't even in the cards. You need to be prepared to avoid saying naughty things on the internet. Otherwise, perhaps someone will figure out that you great-great grandfather didn't sign in the right spot in 1897 and you're…

>The US is building out the infrastructure for a police state. Take the Utah Data Center ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center ), combine it with the Disposition Matrix ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix ), informally known as a kill list for even US citizens, and it does seem like you're getting a Police State!

A lot of our current privacy and liberty woes were exacerbated by 9/11. Can you imagine a Church Committee in 2026? Me neither.

Three letter agencies have way too much power and they've shaped our culture+laws for the worse. Osama Bin Laden has done way more damage to American citizens' lives than he could've ever dreamed of.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by _djo_ »

dheera wrote: post #102
peyton wrote: post #50

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As a California resident I request to download my personal data from every service I can, and I’m constantly surprised. We each have scores for all kinds of things. The local power company keeps a “Green Ideology” score on me.

How do they know your ideology? Are they scraping your social media or running sentiment analysis on your customer service chats?

It’s likely some customer segmentation label generated through PCA or some other clustering approach.

The qualifying criteria is probably just having picked an offer for renewable-sourced energy in the past, indicating that it has some importance to you. So you will be given more green energy offers in future.

Every company segments its customer base this way for marketing. Sometimes it’s even useful.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by iamthejuan »

avallach wrote: post #93

Isn't this actually improving safety by openly admitting how things always were in practice? Any e2e encryption provided by the same entity who fully controls both the blackbox clients, and the server in between, is just a security theatre that they can selectively bypass anytime with very little risk of detection. Not really much better than simple client to server encryption. Truly safe e2e requires open source cli…

This happened to my girlfriend and me twice on Messenger. On two consecutive nights, we heard a male voice with an American accent speaking as if he were talking to someone else, almost like they were conducting some kind of operation. It seemed as though he suddenly realized that we could hear him, after which the voice abruptly disappeared. The following night, it happened again, but this time the voice sounded like that of an African American woman. The situation was similar to the previous night. From that night, we have not used it to communicate and used Signal instead.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by fsflover »

subscribed wrote: post #139
fsflover wrote: post #108

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GNU/Linux phones already exist. See: Librem 5 and Pinephone.

If you like privacy without security then yeah .

There is no security in a vacuum. Security depends on your threat model. I use Firefox with NoScript and never run untrusted apps on my Librem 5.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by fsflover »

vova_hn2 wrote: post #147
fsflover wrote: post #108

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GNU/Linux phones already exist. See: Librem 5 and Pinephone.

I find it really off putting, how weak is their hardware, compared to a normal Android phone in a similar price range.

Weak hardware can work quite well with optimized and non-bloated software (which doesn't constantly phone home). For example, maps and Youtube work smoothly on Pinephone with SXMo. See also: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by hackingonempty »

dmix wrote: post #10
treesknees wrote: post #5

It could be a move to have parity with TikTok, where they claim it’s for safety reasons. I’ve been seeing advertisements for Instagram touting their child/teen protection features. Seems like they’re really trying to beat the allegations that Instagram is bad for children’s health. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47241817

Protecting kids and Terrorism, always the reason why nobody is allowed to have privacy on the internet.

Also drug dealers and money launderers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalyp...

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by officeplant »

nunobrito wrote: post #19
dmix wrote: post #10

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Protecting kids and Terrorism, always the reason why nobody is allowed to have privacy on the internet.

Cars nowadays are packed with microphones and permanently connected to the internet on daily basis so that drivers can have remote assistance when the car breaks once every 5 years or so.

One of my favorite things about going EV is the forums tend to be full of paranoid nerds which means someone will be willing to try desoldering the cell modem off their boards to see what happens.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by vova_hn2 »

fsflover wrote: post #155
vova_hn2 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it really off putting, how weak is their hardware, compared to a normal Android phone in a similar price range.

Weak hardware can work quite well with optimized and non-bloated software (which doesn't constantly phone home). For example, maps and Youtube work smoothly on Pinephone with SXMo. See also: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ .

I hope so, but I just don't understand what exactly causes such massive price difference.

Is it because this kind of phones are a very niche product so they can't benefit from the economy of scale?

Maybe android phone manufacturers can get better deals from chip manufacturers because they buy chips in large quantities?

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Post by Synaesthesia »

avallach wrote: post #93

Isn't this actually improving safety by openly admitting how things always were in practice? Any e2e encryption provided by the same entity who fully controls both the blackbox clients, and the server in between, is just a security theatre that they can selectively bypass anytime with very little risk of detection. Not really much better than simple client to server encryption. Truly safe e2e requires open source cli…

It's all about trust at the end of the day. And given that it was exposed that Apple, Microsoft, Meta, Google etc all collaborated with the US government to provide surveillance (PRISM) by Edward Snowden, how we can trust them ever again?
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