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Re: Willingness to look stupid

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This posts observation have interesting side-effects. Measurements, metrics and surveillance kill creative work. And hierarchies and the fear of embarrassment do too. So, the more you try to force "excellence" into existence via external pressures and resource tracking, the more it disappears. Which leaves as observation, you can only do truly creative work - in a high trust society, where people trust you with the r…

recently execs in companies think software dev isnt creative work because llm can churn out equivalents. So they are openly tracking all sorts of metrics on devs now.

If those metrics are good they will be able to use them to find out that the metrics themselves dont work.

Re: Willingness to look stupid

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If you haven’t had the pleasure of Los Angeles public-access television’s Let’s Paint TV… https://www.letspainttv.com/ Or, to save your eyes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let's_Paint_TV For more than 20 years, Mr. Let’s Paint TV (artist John Kilduff) has encouraged viewers to “EMBRACE FAILARE”—charitably put, to pass through the valley of incompetence as it’s the only path to the slopes of mastery. Just do the thing…

There is a book called Art & Fear which explores this in depth. A quick read and worth it for people that don’t consider themselves artists. It has a great story (allegory) about a pottery class, which was shared here in the past. Six sentences. Worth a read: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6097663

“Nobody tells this to people who are beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you. A lot of people never get past this phase, they quit. Most people I know who do interesting, creative work went through years of this. We know our work doesn’t have this special thing that we want it to have. We all go through this. And if you are just starting out or you are still in this phase, you gotta know its normal and the most important thing you can do is do a lot of work. Put yourself on a deadline so that every week you will finish one story. It is only by going through a volume of work that you will close that gap, and your work will be as good as your ambitions. And I took longer to figure out how to do this than anyone I’ve ever met. It’s gonna take awhile. It’s normal to take awhile. You’ve just gotta fight your way through.” ― Ira Glass

Re: Willingness to look stupid

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nicely put. That's why most of the innovation over the centuries came from the high trust style societies. With the decline of trust, I fear we as a civilization are going into a long period of stagnation or even regression. Unfortunately, at this point there's no socially acceptable way to reverse the trend of trust destruction.

Reputation. Its a good concept. We might need to bring it back and not externalise it to linked-in blindly. Honour is also nice to have.

To bring the honor system back, we need to value honor again as a society. Doing honorable things should be compensated in some tangible way, as well as doing dishonorable things should be punished by society.

PS: I'm not talking about fake "honor" based power systems.

Re: Willingness to look stupid

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nicely put. That's why most of the innovation over the centuries came from the high trust style societies. With the decline of trust, I fear we as a civilization are going into a long period of stagnation or even regression. Unfortunately, at this point there's no socially acceptable way to reverse the trend of trust destruction.

Reputation. Its a good concept. We might need to bring it back and not externalise it to linked-in blindly. Honour is also nice to have.

I have often thought that there should be a public ledger of some sort for people (powered by vouching), and then immediately forseen the negative externalities and abandoned that idea.

Reputation is as harmful as it is good. Anyone who survived being unpopular in high school, or seen the dummies that can be elected in democracies, should be able to explain how.

No, it is better to judge works by their merits than it is to judge people by their popularity. Though it is far more expensive.

Re: Willingness to look stupid

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> So instead of trying and occasionally failing, they just... stop trying. The fear of making something bad is worse than producing nothing at all.

"Loosening up" is a way to describe this skill.

It reminds me of a story from Richard Feynman. In his book, Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!, he recalls an art class when he was instructed to draw without looking at the paper. The first time he did it, his pencil broke at the very beginning and he had nothing but impressions in his paper.

The second time he did it, he was impressed with the results, noticing a “funny, semi-Picasso like strength” in his work.

He knew that it would be impossible to draw well without looking at the paper, so he didn’t consciously try. He writes, “I had thought that ‘loosen up’ meant ‘make sloppy drawings,’ but it really meant to relax and not worry about how the drawing is going to come out.”

Being allowed to fail is a condition for your mind to want to try new ideas. I elaborate on this here in my book, Creative Doing: https://www.holloway.com/g/creative-doing/sections/relinquis...

There is a lot I like about this post, including the author's intuition to invoke the jellyfish.

A lion’s mane jellyfish can release up to 45,000 eggs per day. The jellyfish’s strategy is to lay as many eggs as possible and leave them to fend for themselves. Most of these eggs don’t survive, probably fewer than 0.1%.

Compare this with an elephant, which can only give birth to one calf at a time. The elephant’s strategy is to dedicate its effort into raising a relatively small number of calves. Many of these calves survive to see adulthood. This approach might sound familiar because it’s how we raise our kids as well.

If you're feeling stuck, and unwilling to look stupid, maybe it's time to approach your creative ideas less like an elephant and more like a jellyfish. I write more about this here: https://herbertlui.net/the-jellyfish-knows-how-to-survive-un...

The advantage to writing a blog, nowadays, is because your writing will be so difficult hard to discover, you can put all your ideas out there—good and bad—and only become known for the good ones. (That's what I'm hoping to do!)

In other words, "Publish everything, promote selectively" (Elaborated on this here: https://herbertlui.net/publish-everything-promote-selectivel...)

Re: Willingness to look stupid

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> So instead of trying and occasionally failing, they just... stop trying. The fear of making something bad is worse than producing nothing at all. "Loosening up" is a way to describe this skill. It reminds me of a story from Richard Feynman. In his book, Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!, he recalls an art class when he was instructed to draw without looking at the paper. The first time he did it, his pencil broke…

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Re: Willingness to look stupid

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The epiphany for me this week was a long list of rabbit holes from this long post:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47324054

https://medium.com/@acidflask/this-guys-arrogance-takes-your...

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/E...

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD638...

https://www.cs.umd.edu/~gasarch/BLOGPAPERS/social.pdf

https://blog.computationalcomplexity.org/2021/06/i-went-to-d...

https://6826.csail.mit.edu/2020/papers/noproof.pdf

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9948767

Now I have no illusions about who looked stupid and who were stupid. It really doesn’t matter.

The jury is still out.

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