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Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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I went with Framework this time, I use linux so I love that if I have a problem with the wifi card on my laptop, I can just replace it

I tried so hard to live framework. Now I barely like them. Too many concessions, but the price just sucks. Of the four I bought for employees. Two have had serious issues.

What kind of issues? That is concerning.

I love that they have way less thermal throttling than the X1 I had before

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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I'm rocking a framework 13" intel 12th gen still and I love it. The only issue I had was being part of the few that got a batch of bad hinges. I didn't know there was a replacement program I could have used and just replaced them myself with the heavier hinge option. At this point I have every expansion port thing they offer and keep them in my bag. My laptop can have any I/O I want :) pretty cool.

Hmm, framework 13 and Linux… loves nothing more than to drain while off. I’m getting really annoyed by that

Are there non-Mac laptops that still support real sleep? I'm worried about replacing my beater XPS.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Not with Linux, typically. If you don't have drivers included in the kernel, it requires a lot of effort to get things working. I've done it many times, so now I will generally only buy laptops that have decent Linux support. [1] I've had the laptop for about two years now and it still runs just as well as the day I bought it. I'm very happy with it. [1] No I will not stick with Windows. Please feel free to read thro…

I've had linux on every laptop I've owned for years, and I haven't really had a problem with any of them running linux, except for display port support on a dell xps. Aside from that one dell laptop, though, I generally avoid HP and dell entirely, so perhaps that's why.

In 2013 I bought a laptop that I kept five years that had an Nvidia Optimus.

I never really figured out how to get the discrete card working consistently, and since then I haven't bought a laptop with an Nvidia card.

I've had issues with wifi cards and sound drivers and the like as well, though it's going a lot better now than it was a decade ago.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

#156

Nice very cool. Unfortunately, the blog post looks like it's been generated by an LLM. > Going from a high score to the highest score isn’t usually about making minor tweaks. It requires fighting for every small, boring, consequential decision—the ones that determine whether a repair isn’t merely possible or practical, but within easy reach.

LLMs copied this style of writing, no doubt by training on blog content. Blogs have been doing it forever now...

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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No thanks. I don't like all their awful plastic. Make it from metal and glass.

Metal and glass are overrated. Glass cracks, metal bends and stays bent... Plastic, especially high quality plastics combined with a magnesium chassis in a ThinkPad, is way more durable.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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I had al of these. The CPU is the weakest component here, and only T480 supports 32 GB RAM. (Typing this from a T14 gen 1.)

I've got a T480s that has 40GB of RAM (32GB SODIMM + 8GiB soldered). Works fine. Is the T480 different?

My T480 running NetBSD: [ 1.000000] total memory = 65411 MB

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Yeah, I was shocked that a keyboard replacement of my company issued X1 is basically a full teardown. When it was time to replace my private laptop a year later, I opted for the L-series, which is much better in that regard and also much cheaper. Keyboard replacements are a pretty standard thing for me, because I don't like my local layout and if you limit yourself to buying with the layout you want, you can only go…

I went with Framework this time, I use linux so I love that if I have a problem with the wifi card on my laptop, I can just replace it

I don't like betting on newcomers. While they may have some good ideas that improve the industry overall, there is a lot of long-term learning that newcomers can't yet benefit from. That usually leads to silly mistakes and quality problems. The useful aspect of newcomers is the credible threat they pose to the old guard of taking a portion of the pie away if they don't innovate. But I don't feel like spending my own money on that.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

#160

This commitment by Lenovo must have been driven by customer demand -- in this case, the IT departments. I wonder how much of that demand may be attributed to questions about comparisons to Framework. Even if Framework is not mainstream, it has mindshare among the IT-crowd.

Framework is a great concept but they will die due to poor execution. If I hadn't already recently bought a Framework (and knew what I do now about them) I would've held out for one of these new Lenovos. I don't think Framework can compete if one of the established players joins the game.
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