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Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by raphinou »

Wilder7977 wrote: post #94
raphinou wrote: post #79

I have been using e/OS but moved away when an upgrade to the next version required to manually wipe the device. I could cope with the little inconveniences of a degoogled phone, but wiping the device myself following a unclear procedure was too much for me. My phone is not a hacking subject. It's a tool. Still, it worked reasonably well and I would have upgraded and kept using it if the upgrade had been easier.

I am on e/OS since 2021 with a FP3 and, for what is worth, I never had to reinstall, wipe or anything. My phone just had it's 5th birthday and it has been a single continuous set of updates. I know the versions differ by model, so perhaps your model was not as well supported.

It was the gigaset gs190. I've used it quite some time with e/os, but one day the automatic updates stopped working and I discovered this reinstallation requirement.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by Mordisquitos »

odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

I can vouch for your experience as mine has been the same, also on a Fairphone on which I installed /e/OS. I could have literally written the same comment myself — em-dash usage included!

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Post by abustamam »

enriquto wrote: post #144
safety1st wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate that there are people out there working on stuff like /e/OS, but the number one question I have when I learn about a mobile OS that isn't iOS or "Googled" Android is: will the banking and payment apps I need to operate in the modern world run on this OS? A lot of people don't think this way because they haven't had any problems. But then one day it happens to you and you realize, ok, this is the one thin…

> the app my electricity utility provides for viewing and paying my account DISABLES ITSELF FOREVER if you so much as enable USB debugging on your phone (even after you've disabled it again). These are self-inflicted problems by these apps. Nothing to do with the OS. These apps simply don't work. Complain to the companies that push these broken apps to you. Would you buy a microwave oven that kills itself if you play…

The problems may be inflicted by these apps but the reality is that in many cases you're stuck with them. Electric company freezes your account if you enable USB debugging? Well, you can't choose a new electric company. We can complain to these vendors all we want but they just ignore us.

So these problems become problems of the OS, not because the OS has a problem, but because it affects the reality of using the OS.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

This is an astroturfing account.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #153
odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

I can vouch for your experience as mine has been the same, also on a Fairphone on which I installed /e/OS. I could have literally written the same comment myself — em-dash usage included!

It's not just an OS, it's an /e/OS.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by Rumengol »

lpcvoid wrote: post #2

There's absolutely no reason to use /e/ when GrapheneOS exists. https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

There absolutely is when your concern is not only moving away from Google but also using sustainable hardware like Fairphone, which GrapheneOS doesn't support afaik.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by setopt »

goldenarm wrote: post #99
samrus wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kinda dont see how both of you cant be right. We need a mobile OS that google isnt involved in. Why not use pure open source android to do it. It can only be cheaper than making it from scratch, since it has alot of work already done on it

(Copying my reply from below) Building and maintainance cost are not linear, especially when you inherit legacy code. The AOSP codebase isn't great, is 4x bigger than the Linux Kernel, and full of "Ship now, patch later" mess. But I agree that it is a significant endeavor. But the OSS community succeeded in similar projects before, and the current state of the Linux desktop makes me hopeful.

Should not the Netscape -> Mozilla example be a good inspiration in that regard?

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by amelius »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #156
Mordisquitos wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can vouch for your experience as mine has been the same, also on a Fairphone on which I installed /e/OS. I could have literally written the same comment myself — em-dash usage included!

It's not just an OS, it's an /e/OS.

Yeah, it's an OS that gives a browser error because it thinks the name is a path.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by koolala »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #155
odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

This is an astroturfing account.

It is weird they only discuss e/os. Does look like it.

Astroturfing kills any trust I had in e/OS.

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