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Re: Nearby Glasses

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> The episode wasn't really about the tech, it was about a failing relationship, a cheating partner, and an untrusting obsessive person. Good (or decent) science fiction is never about the tech, but about its impact on people.

because the tech is hard to envision right (or sci-fi writers would be rich), but the consequences are clearer

No, it’s because it aims to be a relatable, compelling story, and not a technical instructions manual.

Not everyone thinks about getting rich all the time.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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The pushback to and ultimate failure of Google Glass proves it’s not inevitable.

The fact that every new technology has had pushback before adoption makes your claim meaningless.

That is simply not true. There was no pushback for washing machines or vacuum cleaners or refrigerators, to name just a few.

Furthermore, the point isn’t the pushback but the ultimate failure and thus lack of adoption. I feel like that’s fairly obvious.

This idea that all new tech faces pushback is at best ignorant and at worst a wilful deception to justify every draconian idea pushed forward by tech bros who only care about extracting money from people at all costs.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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I'm a bit torn on this because (at least in the sci-fi utopia stories) when a critical mass of people are recording full time then interpersonal crime and anti-social behavior is strongly discouraged. It's like an honor-based culture at scale.

Honor culture is what happens when there's no reliable institutions or evidence, so people have to defend reputation themselves - usually with retaliation and interpersonal violence. Always-on cameras are the opposite idea: enforcement moves outside the individual, which is basically how honor cultures stop being a thing.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Currently detects via Meta, Essilor or Snap company ID. So it won't detect my XReal's. I purposefully bought my XReal now because it feels like they might be one of the last models released without cameras. But theoretically I could have the XReal Eye attachment on my glasses, and could be taking video through that. I don't, but the XReal user next to me might. Of course the USB wire hanging from my ear probably make…

Looking at this almost unanimously negative comment section, on a tech website, it appears you should be concerned about your safety while wearing anything that could be seen as being "smart". I imagine a non-tech crowd would be even more negative. > for identifying creeps nearby > I recently had to interact with an idiot wearing meta glasses. > Would renaming to ”Nearby Glassholes” be acceptable as a PR? > If you're…

> it appears you should be concerned about your safety while wearing anything that could be seen as being "smart".

People don't have issues with smartphones, smartwatches, or any other "smart" stuff that isn't spyware.

The issue isn't smarts, it's supporting stasi-as-a-service.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Add satellite imagery, nearby self-driving vehicles / Google maps cars, line-of-sight ring doorbells, peripheral street surveillance cameras, police equipment, people in your proximity with a smartphone camera, and various-purpose drones and then you'll have the perfect paranoia alerter.

The fact that people dislike so strongly only a subset of these recording devices also means something. Part of it is people being unaware. But also: wearers of smart glasses have a reputation. I guess the question is, is the glasshole reputation deserved.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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That's way off base. There's a very significant chunk of people who rarely if ever use the camera on their phone right now. It's not even a matter of who they are or their personal opinions. Cameras simply aren't an exclusive gateway to anything critically important. In many cases a photo or video is an objectively worse format than text. Smartphones became common because they are now the only way to access certain i…

I would disagree that a smartphone without a working camera is perfectly usable. A lot of the world — especially in developing countries — runs on QR Codes for everything from restaurant menus to electronic payments. Without a camera, other stuff too, like KYC, just doesn't work. These are the sorts of changes that, as you mentioned, are forcing people to use smartphones. And they rely on the camera.

QR codes can be unreliable and unnecessary to convey a URL. That's why I said "an image is never the only format available". If it's a deliberate thing people must pay attention to, the friction is already too high.

Most QR codes are not permalinks. Nobody wants to print out another one or retry scanning with better lighting only to find it doesn't work. When it really matters the link is dynamic and invisible. It's baked into a script your phone runs when you perform a more interesting higher level task in an app, tap-to-pay when you arrive, etc.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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> The ability to record without my knowledge or consent All major brands have a clear indicator for when they're recording. Someone could block that indicator out, but someone could also just go to Amazon.com and select one of hundred of available pinhole cameras or not-smart camera glasses. These aren't enabling an ability that hasn't been enabled for decades . If anything, seeing someone with main brand smart glass…

I don't get the point of this argument. Yes, the people who buy pinhole cameras are creeps too

why is someone protecting their property/children creep?

Re: Nearby Glasses

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> There have already been demos. Ask the AI watching over your shoulder anything about your past and present and have it act on it. Demo, or verbatim plot of Black Mirror episode?

Demo. As much I enjoyed Black Mirror I thought it's Season 1, "The Entire History of You" entertaining but was poorly conceived. It showed catching your partner cheating as a "would rather not know" thing and it ignored any possible positives. The episode wasn't really about the tech, it was about a failing relationship, a cheating partner, and an untrusting obsessive person. In any case, in that world, which didn't…

And yet we live in a world where even a basic surveillance camera, dashcam, or bodycam are often broken, missing, or turned off.

It's not always nefarious. The friction is just too high and people don't actually care about any of those things you listed as much as you might believe. If they did, we'd just as easily employ people performing audits on every interaction of every waking moment since the beginning of humanity. A nanny, if you will.

In the real world, simplicity wins. You can say it's irrational all you want. Nobody cares. Cost, reliability, and impedance are more important. No amount of engineering or economy of scale will overcome those things. Doing nothing is always an option and so this is all ultimately political.

What humanity has learned again and again is that trust is too important and intrinsic to leave it up to politics. All that will result in is brittle rules that are easily abused worse than the original problem they intended to solve. It's much easier to convince people to socialize accordingly and ignore or punish the people who refuse to comply.

Making sure that every decision in a flowchart leads somewhere is not necessarily valuable or even desirable to anyone.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Tried this on my moto g 128GB - 2025 (XT2513V) running Android 16. Here is some rapid fire feedback. I opened this in a pretty heavily populated area in Baltimore. There wasn't anyone likely near using glasses and no detections were made, but the debug log flew by absurdly quickly likely because there are a ton of Bluetooth devices nearby. The start scanning button doesn't change to stop scanning, but it does seem to…

Maybe the app doesn't work, but at least no humans wrote it (:
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