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1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#151
post #27

There is no reason for this increase except the fact that they know people are too lazy to migrate away. Most of the listed features don't make any sense as core value propositions (wtf is AI-powered item naming)

Below are a few valid reason to increase the price a software company charge their customer.

1. R&D 2. Increase salary 3. Increase OpEx

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#152
I’m really disappointed by this. I’ve been a 1Password user for 18 years.

Over the last several years, since they moved to Electron for the main app, things have gotten worse and worse. The browser extension doesn’t work half the time. In addition to being frustrating, that makes it a less secure system, as one of the benefits is that it only fills the password on the specified domain. A lack of reliability of the extension leaves people more vulnerable to phishing, since they have to copy/paste passwords out of the app.

The features they list, I don’t care about. AI item naming? What? It already automatically named things pretty well without AI. It feels like they just want to use the hot buzz word.

A password manager should be a fairly boring utility. It should be secure, stable, reliable for the long-haul. These ideas are incompatible with taking on investments from a bunch of celebrities.

When I heard about them taking on investors I was worried. Password managers create a fair amount of lock-in, and now they’re starting the squeeze, while failing to deliver on the basic functionality I want out of a password manager… filling passwords in the browser.

It seems like I’ll need to migrate over the next 5 months. I was hoping this day would never come, as it was mostly a good 18 years. I recommended 1Password to a lot of people over the years.

While I don’t want to move to a password manager that will create vendor lock-in, I will probably end up going to Apple Passwords.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#153
post #52

The email I got with individual plan went from $35.88 USD / year to $47.88 USD The new price then is $4/month. From $3/month. (So still 33% increase, similar to family plan in OP]. I found it very cheap before, which is part of what encouraged me to get it in the first place, vs trying to do something free. Would I have signed up for it originally at this price? I don't know. But it's not enough to make me switch to…

https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/set-up-icloud... > After you set up iCloud for Windows, you can use iCloud Passwords to access your passwords in Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Firefox using a browser extension. You can also manage your passwords in the iCloud Passwords app. Could be worth a try.

I haven’t use this on Windows, but the Apple Passwords extension on Chromium browsers (maybe all non-Safari browsers) is rather annoying. Every time I launch the browser I need to type in a random 6 digit code to link the session to the extension. As a result, I never actually close my browser and get annoyed when I see there is an update that wants me to restart the app.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#154

Enshittification strikes again. For a normal user, the software seems to be getting worse and more cumbersome, and the company seems to continue focusing solely on pushing business- and enterprise-centric features that I have no use for. They'd do well to offer a non-pro type subscription for users who don't want all of that. Instead, though, I and a lot of others will simply be canceling.

I've only been using it for a couple years, but I find it has gotten better not worse for me.

I’ve been using it for 18 years. It’s significantly worse than it used to be in terms of basic reliability. I was already debating a move, but didn’t really want to. This price hike, in the context of all the investors they took on, just seals the deal.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#155
post #31

Wasn’t software cost going to 0 thanks to AI? How they justify 33% increase?

Even if the cost of software is truly going down (which is debatable), what makes you think the savings will be passed down to you?

Those savings should mean increased margins for the company while keeping the price to the consumer the same.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm building an alternative called Lockstep: KeePass-like local-first password vault but with build sync https://github.com/lockstepvault-hq/lockstep Sync requires a server, however server does not see any secret data, it is only used to relay encrypted hash-chained ops log between devices. It's intended to be self-hosting friendly - server is single binary backed by SQLite. It's project is early-alfa, CLI app, Keepa…

That sounds awesome, and I personally want to self-host nothing. I do enough of that at work.

I do not want to self host either, for exactly the same reasons.

However, I do want to have full control of my secret data beyond the secrets themselves, ideally w/out self hosting, i.e. I want to have crypto-proven control over whom I'm sharing secrets with, I want to have have cryto-level assurance that the service cannot use recovery/escrow mechanism to unlock my secrets data stored on the cloud w/out my consent.

Apple Passwords comes closest to what I want, but it's not cross platform.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#157

My family pricing went up by 20%, from $59.88 USD to $71.88 per year. I like 1Password a lot. I've used it for 10 years. It's never lost a single thing, and I don't recall any downtime that impacted me. It's easy to setup and 99% hassle free. Works on my various device types (windows, mac, ios). It supports passkeys and 2FA codes. I like having shared and private vaults. I love the ability to share an auto-expiring,…

You mean they didn't increase prices in 10 years? A 2016 dollar is not the same thing as a 2026 dollar

Oh true. Considering inflation, $60 in 2016 is about $80 in 2026 so really the price has gone down in real terms.

(Not actually sure about the price history of the family plan or when family was introduced. I was originally on the individual plan and it was $35 then, and switched to the family plan in 2022. I don’t think prices have changed though)

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#158
post #75
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a mostly happy 1Password customer with a Family plan for quite some time. This may cause me to jump ship. My biggest issue with 1Password has been 1) how intrusive it can be in the browser, especially on mobile when it's too proactive to show its dropdown and just gets in the way of my experience. I know this is challenging because a mobile device is a small screen, but it is incredibly frustrating. 2) how…

Story time on the mobile proactivity. I was buying a train ticket on Eurostar for my mother. I filled her name as the passenger. Scrolled down and used the 1Password data I have to fill my address and billing information. I proceed and pay. Later, when checking the ticket, I see it's on my name. 1Password changed the passenger details, and since the screen is small, I did not notice. No 100% refund from Eurostar, but…

I’ve had it do stuff like that and it’s very annoying when it’s an issue - which it sometimes is.

That and a lack of easy way to report a login page that doesn’t work perfectly would be my top annoyances (behind a 33% increase in a subscription that was already annoying me each time it came around).

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#159
post #131
post #48

I feel like I am really struggling to see the issue here with pricing, it is still a very cheap subscription and it does what we need it to do. And they were one of the ones that came out better in that recent security analysis of password managers. I see a lot of people upset here and I don’t get it. Did they need to increase the price? Honestly I don’t know, without seeing their financials it is hard to say. But I…

In a world where everything is increasing in prices and salaries aren't keeping pace, you might be able to see it if you imagine what life was like making much less money. 1Password, like other subscriptions, becomes something for the middle class and up, not for the masses. Vendor solutions become the only option.

YNAB has done something similar apparently, and things like actual budget are stepping up to take the slack.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

#160
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? How is the risk substantially different than with a different vendor?

First, all your passwords are locked behind the same passcode you use to log-in. You cannot set different password to unlock the passwords. Anyone who saw your iphone passcode or macbook’s password can not only onlock the device but get access to all the passwords as they are behind the same passcode. Second, what would happen if you were locked out of apple id account? Or don’t have access to apple hardware. Passwor…

People (at least I) started using 1pwd because it was substantially and amazingly better than keychain at the time.

The delta has greatly decreased.

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