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Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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From Umberto Eco's essay on Fascism:

> On the morning of July 27, 1943, I was told that, according to radio reports, fascism had collapsed and Mussolini was under arrest. When my mother sent me out to buy the newspaper, I saw that the papers at the nearest newsstand had different titles. Moreover, after seeing the headlines, I realized that each newspaper said different things. I bought one of them, blindly, and read a message on the first page signed by five or six political parties — among them the Democrazia Cristiana, the Communist Party, the Socialist Party, the Partito d’Azione, and the Liberal Party.

> Until then, I had believed that there was a single party in every country and that in Italy it was the Partito Nazionale Fascista. Now I was discovering that in my country several parties could exist at the same time. Since I was a clever boy, I immediately realized that so many parties could not have been born overnight, and they must have existed for some time as clandestine organizations.

What I think is fascinating here in this case isn't just the suppression of any old free speech, it's trying to hide the presence of political options.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

#152

It is a great illustration of how transition to the authoritarianism happens (I've seen it happen in Russia in 2000s). At first you don't even need censorship, you just need to scare owners of channels/newspapers enough, so that they self-censor.

Indeed. Mark Zuckerberg has long said the administration pressured Facebook to censor COVID-related content, including satire and humor. And now the administration has ended public funding for NPR and PBS. Chilling effect It goes back even further, just see the 1941 FCC “Mayflower Decision” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower_doctrine

When you say "the administration", it's worth noting you're describing actions by two different administrations. Both political parties have tried to silence dissenting views through soft censorship.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Rough spot in time to be: - Once print newspapers were no longer a thing, even local news outlets are struggling to stay alive, and are resulting to sensationalism and entertainment as news - Corporate sponsors retain a huge influence in mainstream news (or have outright purchased it and use it for partisan politics). - "Social" media resides in (you guessed it) corporate-owned walled gardens. - Even those willing to…

Not all the legacy newspapers are failing; NYT is doing well. There are other news sources beyond legacy newspapers, broadcasters, local news, and social media. There are wire services (AP, Reuters), insider access journalism (Axios, Punchbowl, Semafor), public media (NPR, PBS, BBC), investigative journalism (ProPublica), digital-first outlets (Politico, Vox), and the growing wave of small, indie , creator-led media…

NYT as a news organization is, charitably, part of the controlled opposition. They are not meeting this moment at all, through cowardice or intentional complicity I'm not completely sure.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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post #144

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She has defended free speech disliked by both the left and the right on occasions. She famously left the NY Times after defending the publication of a contrarian op-ed by (Republican) Sen. Tom Cotton. https://www.npr.org/2025/10/06/nx-s1-5563786/bari-weiss-cbs-... Although apparently not a fan of Jimmy Kimmel as a comedian, her Free Press objected to his suspension. "... the FCC’s coercion undermines our most fundame…

"Centrist" is an utterly meaningless term, as the only thing it implies is not one of the two major-partisan extremists. You can call me a centrist, with my views being anchored in a libertarian perspective. Back a few decades ago when the major parties' Venn diagrams overlapped a bit more, you could call people at the intersection of the parties' authoritarian policies centrists. And as for Bari Weiss, you can can c…

> she will do the bidding of her employer regardless of which Party's administration they are currently bribing

That's not fair. She left the Wall Street Journal because they didn't want her to write anti-Trump op-eds.

https://reason.com/2018/01/28/bari-weiss-it-was-heartbreakin...

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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If you give in and comply without a fight, are you actually a victim or are you actually a collaborator? CBS is controlled by Ellison, which makes this look a lot like collaboration.

> If you give in and comply without a fight, are you actually a victim or are you actually a collaborator? That is victim blaming. Heard the same from judges about rape victims. > CBS is controlled by Ellison, which makes this look a lot like collaboration. That changes this completely. That isn’t being a coward, that’s just good old quid pro quo from billionaire buddies.

First off, corporations are not people, so your argument is insane from the beginning.

Were the leaders of Vichy France victims? No, they were collaborators.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Centrist" is an utterly meaningless term, as the only thing it implies is not one of the two major-partisan extremists. You can call me a centrist, with my views being anchored in a libertarian perspective. Back a few decades ago when the major parties' Venn diagrams overlapped a bit more, you could call people at the intersection of the parties' authoritarian policies centrists. And as for Bari Weiss, you can can c…

> she will do the bidding of her employer regardless of which Party's administration they are currently bribing That's not fair. She left the Wall Street Journal because they didn't want her to write anti-Trump op-eds. https://reason.com/2018/01/28/bari-weiss-it-was-heartbreakin...

"Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower" includes not anthropomorphizing its individual parts, like the blades. Even when those blades are swapped out for new ones, re-sharpened, and put onto a different lawnmower.

Trump, while an objectively horrible person who belongs in prison for many distinct types of crime, is primarily a minstrel for people to hate on. While he is (unfortunately) a good first-pass litmus test for an individual's politics/intelligence, criticizing him is not really the same as critiquing all of the entrenched interests that installed and continue to enable him.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

#157

The interview in YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A

It's kind of ironic, so much drama all for a safe centrist corporate democrat. Although perhaps that's why it's such a big deal for liberals, it's oligarchical infighting. It's even more confusing that he's funded by the same billionaires that trump is.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/21/james-talarico-miri...

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

#158

It is a great illustration of how transition to the authoritarianism happens (I've seen it happen in Russia in 2000s). At first you don't even need censorship, you just need to scare owners of channels/newspapers enough, so that they self-censor.

I think the FCC is just enforcing the rule that you have to give equal time to all candidates. The late night talk shows used to get around this policy by using the exception given to news agencies. The FCC is just saying that the late night talk shows aren't really "news" shows. Probably should have been doing this the whole time. They also noted that it would not be a problem on cable or internet broadcasts. Not saying it's not politically motivated though.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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It's a terrible look for CBS. At the same time, I find it unbelievable that they don't fire Colbert. This is obvious gross insubordination, and he is an employee. His final show is coming in May, and I'm sure that they can expect Colbert to continue to embarrass them (as the spineless sycophants they are) every week until then. It's a tremendous self own.

Colbert is not a CBS employee. He runs Spartina Productions which, along with Busboy Productions, produces The Late Show for CBS. It's a coordinated project of the three companies, he's not their employee and likely can't just cancel the show except for very specific circumstances.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Tbh, in this case the fault lies more with CBS for obeying in advance. The FCC hasn't actually made the rule change yet.

The chilling effect is the entire point. An FCC source literally told CNN, "the threat is the point." CBS isn't being randomly skittish. Paramount needs regulatory approval for its WBD acquisition, paid $16 million to settle a Trump lawsuit right before needing FCC approval for the Skydance merger, and canceled Colbert days after he criticized that deal. ABC suspended Kimmel after FCC threats. The FCC opened an inves…

And this is a good thing, if you think that the billionaires running large businesses like CNN will generally act in their own selfish self-interest and that they need the government to hold regulatory leverage over their businesses in order to make them act in a socially-beneficial way.

But then you have to trust the government that manages the regulatory agency to act in a socially-beneficial; and only at most half the US population does at any given time.

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