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I guess I kinda get why people hate AI

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Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI

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The amount of EM dashes and usage of negation does make me think AI wrote part of this. I'll give credit for lack of semicolons, but people are starting to get a bit better at "humanizing" their outputs.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone had AI write a bot to post a complaint on every HN thread about how the articles smells like AI slop. It's so tiresome. Either the article is interesting and useful or not, I don't really care if someone used AI to write it.

Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has been the most histrionic about this, with their big blog post about how they need to make sure their models don't feel like they are being emotionally abused by the users being the most fatuous example.

I was taken aback when I recently noticed a co-worker thanking ChatGPT for its answer.

LLMs talk like people; there is nothing wrong with this. It's perfectly fine to be nice to something even if it isn't human. It's why we don't go around kicking dogs for fun.

I understand why people don't act polite to LLMs, but honestly I think not thanking them will make people act more dickish to other humans.

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> Microsoft’s AI CEO is saying AI is going to take everybody’s job. And Sam Altman is saying that AI will wipe out entire categories of jobs. ANd Matt Shumer is saying that AI is currently like Covid in January 2020—as in, “kind of under the radar, but about to kill millions of people”. > I legitimately feel like I am going insane when I hear AI technologists talk about the technology. They’re supposed to market it.…

Also: They've figured out they can "force" AI adoption top-down at many workplaces. They don't need to convince you or even your boss - they just need the C-suite to mandate it.

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Highly entertaining to me that people will form these Woe Is Me rings and just hype themselves into sadness. Then you give them a few minutes and they’ll start exclaiming about how society is all about loneliness these days and how they’ve been going to therapy for the last five years.

The miserable have always been miserable. And no matter how much the world improves, they will find paths to misery. Perhaps the great lesson of this age is that some revel in sadness.

Perhaps what we desire as humans is intensity of emotion more than valence.

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post #30

AI is scary, but look on the bright side: Whenever there is a massive paradigm shift in technology like we have with AI today, there are absolutely massive, devastating wars because the existing strategic stalemates are broken. Industrialized precision manufacturing? Now we have to figure out who can make the most rifles and machine guns. Industrialized manufacturing of high explosives? Time to have a whole world war…

To me global rise of full blown authoritarianism in every corner seems more plausible than a shooting war. The tech is very well suited for controlling people - both in the monitoring sense and destroying their ability to tell what’s really. ie new stalemate in the form of multiple inward focused countries/blocs

Yeah LLMs complete the surveillance state. It adds the patience to monitor, analyze, de-anonymize all the data. The industrial revolution and its wealth temporarily disrupted civilization, but we're regressing to the normal state of global authoritarianism again.

Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI

#156

AI is scary, but look on the bright side: Whenever there is a massive paradigm shift in technology like we have with AI today, there are absolutely massive, devastating wars because the existing strategic stalemates are broken. Industrialized precision manufacturing? Now we have to figure out who can make the most rifles and machine guns. Industrialized manufacturing of high explosives? Time to have a whole world war…

> the existing strategic stalemates are broken

Claude, go hack and find me ways to cause them harm that are unlikely be noticed until it is too late for them to act on it.

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post #140

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Rather than making a good product that’s useful to the world, the goal of current startups seems to be milking VCs who are desperately searching for the new version of the mobile phone revolution that will make this all ok… so it seems like they’re accomplishing their goal? I reckon the reason the VC rhetoric has reached running-hair-dye-Giuliani-speech level absurdity isn’t because they’re trying to convince other p…

I think no one cares about the truth or building something good any more. It's a meme economy. Tell a story and the numbers go up. Until they don't. Yes my pension is probably going down the same sinkhole with your IRA. Good luck. We need it.

Its always been like this but for awhile you had people like Steve Jobs to hold people like Bill Gates accountable. He long referred to MSFT as being mcdonalds in relation to the stuff they produced - very pedestrian.

Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI

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> The idea of AI as an exterminator of human problems is much more appealing than AI as the exterminator of, you know, the career of me and everybody else on Earth.

Here's the rub though: needing a "career" to survive and have a decent life is a human problem. It's an extreme case of mass Stockholm Syndrome that's made the majority accept that working in order to make money in order to have access to life-preserving/enhancing resources is a necessary part of the human condition. Really, that flow is only relevant when it requires human effort to create, maintain and distribute those resources in the first place.

AI is increasingly taking over the effort, and so is threatening that socio-economic order. The real problem is that the gains are still being locked away to maintain that scarcity which the efforts address, so over time there's an increasing crises of access, since there's nothing really in place to continue providing the controlled access everyone in the system has had to resources for... centuries.

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post #3

> Microsoft’s AI CEO is saying AI is going to take everybody’s job. And Sam Altman is saying that AI will wipe out entire categories of jobs. ANd Matt Shumer is saying that AI is currently like Covid in January 2020—as in, “kind of under the radar, but about to kill millions of people”. > I legitimately feel like I am going insane when I hear AI technologists talk about the technology. They’re supposed to market it.…

You guys can hate him, but Alex Karp of Palantir had the most honest take on this recently which was basically: "Yes, I would love to pause AI development, but unless we get China to do the same, we're f***, and there's no advantage unilaterally disarming" (not exact, but basically this) You can assume bad faith on the parts of all actors, but a lot of people in AI feel similarly.

HN has become so marxist they hate the country they live in

Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You guys can hate him, but Alex Karp of Palantir had the most honest take on this recently which was basically: "Yes, I would love to pause AI development, but unless we get China to do the same, we're f***, and there's no advantage unilaterally disarming" (not exact, but basically this) You can assume bad faith on the parts of all actors, but a lot of people in AI feel similarly.

Yeah but it’s in his interest to encourage an arms race with China.

Answer the question.

If the USA pauses AI development, do you think China will?

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