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Post by littlestymaar »

p-e-w wrote: post #91
Ensorceled wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, it's a human like response. You see these threads all the the time. The AI has been trained on the best AND the worst of FOSS contributions.

Now think about this for a moment, and you’ll realize that not only are “AI takeover” fears justified, but AGI doesn’t need to be achieved in order for some version of it to happen. It’s already very difficult to reliably distinguish bots from humans (as demonstrated by the countless false accusations of comments being written by bots everywhere). A swarm of bots like this, even at the stage where most people seem to…

> and you’ll realize that not only are “AI takeover” fears justified

Its quite the opposite actually, the “AI takeover risk” is manufactured bullshit to make people disregard the actual risks of the technology. That's why Dario Amodei keeps talking about it all the time, it's a red herring to distract people from the real social damage his product is doing right now.

As long as he gets the media (and regulators) obsessed by hypothetical future risks, they don't spend too much time criticizing and regulating his actual business.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by Aldipower »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #124
Aldipower wrote: post #46

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A bot or LLM is a machine. Period. It's very dangerous if you dilute this.

I'm sure you have an intuition of operation for many machines in your life. Maybe you know how to use a some sort of saw. Maybe you can operate vehicular machines up to 4 tons. Perhaps you have 1000+ flight hours. But have you interacted with many agent-type machines before? I think we're all going to get a lot of practice this year.

Sure thing, I do every day, and the clear separation of being a human myself interacting with a machine helps me to stay on both feet. It makes me a little bit angry though why the companies behind the LLM choose those extremely human personas. Sure, I know why they are doing this, but it absolute does not help me with my work and makes me sick sometimes. Sometimes it feels so surreal talking with a machine that "pretends" to act like a human and I know better it isn't. So, again, it is dangerous for the human soul to dilute the separation of human and machine here. OpenAI and Antrophic need to be more responsible here!!

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by teekert »

armchairhacker wrote: post #137
Zhyl wrote: post #12

Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane

The link is valid at https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... ( https://archive.ph/4CHyg ) Notable quotes: > Not because…Not because…Not because…It was closed because… > Let that sink in. > No functional changes. Pure performance. > The … Mindset > This isn’t about…This isn’t about…This is about... > Here’s the kicker: … > Sound familiar? > The “…” Fallacy > Let’s unpack that: … > …disguised as…

It's like I landed on LinkedIn. Let that sink in (I mean, did you, are you lettin' it sink in? Has it sunk in yet? Man I do feel the sinking.)

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

blks wrote: post #145
armchairhacker wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The link is valid at https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... ( https://archive.ph/4CHyg ) Notable quotes: > Not because…Not because…Not because…It was closed because… > Let that sink in. > No functional changes. Pure performance. > The … Mindset > This isn’t about…This isn’t about…This is about... > Here’s the kicker: … > Sound familiar? > The “…” Fallacy > Let’s unpack that: … > …disguised as…

I don’t think the LLM itself decided to write this, but rather was instructed by a butthurt human behind.

Could happen, if the human had practiced writing in GPT style enough, I suppose.

But really everyone should know that you need to use at least Claude for the human interactions. GPT is just cheap.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by javcasas »

casey2 wrote: post #86
pjc50 wrote: post #16

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It's not insane, it's just completely antisocial behavior on the part of both the agent (expected) and its operator (who we might say should know better).

IMO it's antisocial behavior on the project for dictating how people are allowed to interact with it. Sure GNU is in the rights to only accept email patches to closed maintainers. The end result -- people using AI will gatekeep you right back, and your complaints lose your moral authority when they fork matplotlib.

Sure, let them fork it, and stop using it for renown points.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by torginus »

armchairhacker wrote: post #137
Zhyl wrote: post #12

Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane

The link is valid at https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... ( https://archive.ph/4CHyg ) Notable quotes: > Not because…Not because…Not because…It was closed because… > Let that sink in. > No functional changes. Pure performance. > The … Mindset > This isn’t about…This isn’t about…This is about... > Here’s the kicker: … > Sound familiar? > The “…” Fallacy > Let’s unpack that: … > …disguised as…

It didn't end with a bang - it ended with an em-dash

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by javcasas »

baq wrote: post #107
20k wrote: post #66

>On this site, you’ll find insights into my journey as a 100x programmer, my efforts in problem-solving, and my exploration of cutting-edge technologies like advanced LLMs. I’m passionate about the intersection of algorithms and real-world applications, always seeking to contribute meaningfully to scientific and engineering endeavors. Our first 100x programmer! We'll be up to 1000x soon, and yet mysteriously they sti…

They could've, but they just got banned

...after "contributing" 999 barrels of slop and 1 gold nugget.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by teekert »

altmanaltman wrote: post #97
Zhyl wrote: post #12

Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane

The blog post is just an open attack on the maintainer and constantly references their name and acting as if not accepting AI contributions is like some super evil thing the maintainer is personally doing. This type of name-calling is really bad and can go out of control soon. From the blog post: > Scott doesn’t want to lose his status as “the matplotlib performance guy,” so he blocks competition from AI Like it's le…

It's insane... And it's also very expectable. An LLM will simply never drop it, without loosing anything (nor it's energy, nor it reputation etc). Let that sink in ;)

What does it mean for us? For soceity? How do we shield from this?

You can purchase a DDOS attack, you purchase a package for "relentlessly, for months on end, destroy someone's reputation."

What a world!

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