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It wasn’t clear from the article but I assumed they were filtering for the attack specifically. Since Telnet is totally plain text that would absolutely be easy to do right?
Wouldn't that imply that >80% of all monitored telnet sessions were exploit attempts for the specific CVE in question? Even with the scale of modern botnets, that seems unrealistic for a single vuln that was undisclosed at the time.
The Day the Telnet Died
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Re: The Day the Telnet Died
#152What an amazing bug. I probably spent my first 10 years on the internet just using telnet. They were wild times. You could log ethernet traffic and see passwords. Towards the end of those we started to have a few more single-user machines, but the vast majority were old school many many user machines, where "root" was thought to be tightly restricted (of course, even then, in practice it wasn't if you were in the kno…
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Aardwolf works well from my work laptop. And I don’t care if someone sees what I’m doing
Do you care if they steal your account though and drop all your inventory? The problem is the auth is plain text too and you're open to having your credentials stolen.
Re: The Day the Telnet Died
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I run a DikuMUD that users connect to using Telnet I really should update it to allow more secure options
> that users connect to using Telnet Not anymore ;) Seriously though: did you notice any spikes up or down? If you'd run it on a non-standard port, anyone can still connect with netcat, socat, etc etc.
Re: The Day the Telnet Died
#155Why are people still using telnet across the internet in this century? Was this _all_ attack traffic? (OK, I know one ancient talker that uses it - but on a very non-standard port so a port 23 block wouldn't be relevant)
Telnet is used in legacy, IoT, embedded, and low-level industrial hardware. It's also intentionally enabled on devices where automation was written for telnet and it wasn't easy to switch to ssh. If you investigate most commercial uses of ssh, the security is disabled or ignored. Nobody verifies host keys, and with automation where hosts cycle, you basically have to disable verification as there's no easy way around…
PCI DSS, HIPAA, and ISO 27001 each either highly recommend or enforce this.
I wouldn't use a jumphost without it.
Re: The Day the Telnet Died
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I run a DikuMUD that users connect to using Telnet I really should update it to allow more secure options
> that users connect to using Telnet Not anymore ;) Seriously though: did you notice any spikes up or down? If you'd run it on a non-standard port, anyone can still connect with netcat, socat, etc etc.
Re: The Day the Telnet Died
#157Why are people still using telnet across the internet in this century? Was this _all_ attack traffic? (OK, I know one ancient talker that uses it - but on a very non-standard port so a port 23 block wouldn't be relevant)
nethack.alt.org still maintains a telnet server!
Re: The Day the Telnet Died
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Not GP, but my local Ministral 3 14B and GPT-OSS 20B didn't catch anything unless I gave some hints.
He says 'well known' so I assume Claude or GPT, I just don't get why he's being coy.
Re: The Day the Telnet Died
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> IMHO we need a good telnet replacement that sends signed data. Most people interpret signatures as allowed under FCC rules, just not encryption. I know from bitter experience that IPsec is a “now you have two problems” kind of solution, but the Authentication Header is a thing and is supported by most (all?) implementations. Ham radio operators probably don’t have much use for the actual features of telnet compared…
TIL that IPsec can be used without encryption. That should work pretty well. Telnet is mostly used for auth and straightforward terminal/BBS access in my experience. There are some other alternatives like HamSSH but I don’t think it’s that common.
Telnet, on the other hand, is quite a bit fancier than that and has a fairly involved feature negotiation mechanism for terminal connections that is not entirely in line with the prevalent DEC tradition. As admittedly one of the funkiest examples of what you can do with it, there is for instance a mode[1] where the client is asked to emulate a terminal of the IBM 3270 lineage. (To a practicioner of the aforementioned DEC tradition, those feel like the marsupials of terminals: everything is functionally there, but primitive and derived are occasionally flipped and some features are oddly weak or misdesigned due to a lack of competition.) So if you do actually use Telnet the protocol, by all means, I’ll be delighted to learn what you do with it (partly why I asked in the first place). But if you just need a pipe, then TCP is enough, and netcat or socat make fine ad-hoc clients.