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LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by port11 »

gmurphy wrote: post #70

When we designed Chrome, since minimalism was our thing and screens used to be small, A LOT of time was spent on the total vertical space - thin titlebar, slightly bigger tabstrip, and a large toolbar. Lots of discussion, lots of questions Telling people the height ratios between them followed the golden ratio was a very convenient way to shortcut the bikeshedding and get to "aha, very nice" The trick was it didn't f…

Ironically many of the website’s examples look worse than what they compare against. Taste is personal, I guess.

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by ListeningPie »

foobarbecue wrote: post #122
user____name wrote: post #110

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My favorite genre of graphic design is when you take a logo and work backwards to show the "very deeply thought about" construction, completely made up after the fact. The golden ratio is useful in that with a bit of fiddling you can fit pretty much anything to it. This is like catnip for "spiritual" types.

Obligatory https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...

What’s the context?

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by cush »

Garrett_Mack wrote: post #31

Hi everyone, I'm the creator of LiftKit. This project is EXTREMELY early and, as everyone has pointed out, not ready for production use. It's a solo project I work on in my free time. I'm a self-taught, so a lot of the weird choices you're seeing can be attributed to the decisions of someone who had never built something like this before. LIFTKIT IS FREE AND OPEN SOURCE. The website's just out of date. https://github…

opticalCorrection is genius. That small change makes the layout feel so intentional, polished, and complete - not text stuffed into a card, but the card itself is one cohesive component

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by chrismorgan »

gmurphy wrote: post #101
dbdoskey wrote: post #99

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Thank you for sharing, this was very insightful. Do you have another example of something like this that your team had to deal with that was not as easy, but "looked easier" for the users?

Replacing the Android home buttons with the swipe up gesture. It was demonstrably a very clear usability and efficiency loss, but most people strongly preferred it. Before we had that latter data I actually argued against attempting it - I figured having a clear usability win vs iPhone would be an area we could capitalize on, and didn't believe we'd be able to execute the swipe system well in the time we had (I'd rat…

And although you can still choose to have the back/home/menu buttons, more and more apps will misbehave and draw under them, sometimes rendering controls unusable or content nigh-invisible. One year ago no app I had did that. Now it’s up to three.

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by amadeuspagel »

PaulHoule wrote: post #135
lelanthran wrote: post #127

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> All other browser I've tried (firefox, vivaldi, edge, safari, atlas, many others) and all other programs with a tab-based UI I use (zed, vs code, sqlitebrowser) look worse. Both you and the poster could both be correct. Looking good and being a poor interface are unrelated. IOW, something could look absolutely beautiful and still have a nightmarish UI. "Looking pretty" is subjective. Being a good UI is objective.

Reminds me of how like 10 years ago there were the fanbois who wanted to do their cars in Material Design or tatto Material Design on their face and such.

Yes, people who disagree with me about which program has the best implemention of a tab-based user interface remind of people who tattoo things on their face as well.

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by tkzed49 »

Garrett_Mack wrote: post #64
deepfriedrice wrote: post #46

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I did the same with Select. No picture and the API doesn't make sense. The options are specified twice. https://www.chainlift.io/components/select

Yeah it's a huge problem. Not accessible either. Idk what I was thinking. The next release will use radix primitives.

Hey man, if you ever see this, not your fault it ended up on HN early! I'm sure this is solid for your usecase. That's just something that would dissuade me from choosing it!

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by Terretta »

kayge wrote: post #136
Terretta wrote: post #60

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If you put two proofs side by side, you can view from the right distance then uncross or cross your eyes like a stereogram till they converge, which makes differences shimmer. Instant "spot the difference" solve. // Long time in print and digital agency

And once you have the hang of this technique, congratulations! You can now enjoy those 3D "Magic Eye" images that stumped a significant portion of the population back in the 90s :) e.g. https://old.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/1lxqd0l/the_most_...

Right, “like a stereogram”!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostereogram

Re: LiftKit – UI where "everything derives from the golden ratio"

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Post by foobarbecue »

ListeningPie wrote: post #152
foobarbecue wrote: post #122

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Obligatory https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...

What’s the context?

Oh, it's a mostly nonsense (IMO) document that a design contractor did for a new Pepsi logo. I don't really know much about it but it gets posted on HN frequently when someone makes fun of designers. I dunno if it leaked or what, but here's a reddit thread about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Design/comments/hspqgd/pepsi_logo_r... . I'd bet the GP post of this had their opinion formed at least in part by this document.

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Post by nickradford »

Garrett_Mack wrote: post #64
deepfriedrice wrote: post #46

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I did the same with Select. No picture and the API doesn't make sense. The options are specified twice. https://www.chainlift.io/components/select

Yeah it's a huge problem. Not accessible either. Idk what I was thinking. The next release will use radix primitives.

Hey! I didn't realize this wasn't even posted by the creator of the library. Building shit and launching is hard, don't let it dissuade you from putting stuff out there though!

Also, check out base-ui. Radix is fine, but base ui has generally better primitives and is being actively developed

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Post by actionfromafar »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #119
gmurphy wrote: post #70

When we designed Chrome, since minimalism was our thing and screens used to be small, A LOT of time was spent on the total vertical space - thin titlebar, slightly bigger tabstrip, and a large toolbar. Lots of discussion, lots of questions Telling people the height ratios between them followed the golden ratio was a very convenient way to shortcut the bikeshedding and get to "aha, very nice" The trick was it didn't f…

I loved the minimalism of early Chrome, thank you so much for your work on that! I wish this was still a priority for modern Chrome. Just because screens are bigger now doesn’t mean I want to waste that space.

Chrome is dominant now. Different position, different behaviour.
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