So on balance, would we say this is bad for the US?
European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
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Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Federation can feel like "just a feature" but the E2E encryption (also in group chats) is a reason for Matrix to exist and a big reason why it's so slow.
"Slow" in what sense? Development? Because I self host a Conduit server and I don't ever notice messages being slow. It would be hard to notice anyway, as in a group chat people usually take some time to type in their responses. The sync between large groups used to be slow because of amount of data, but Element X and "sliding windows" were rolled out to help with it. AFAIK, the public Matrix server used to be slow b…
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Element is buggy Someone should tell the CEO/CTO of Element
Speaking as the CEO/CTO of Element... the classic Element apps on mobile were buggy, thanks to being a ~10 year old codebase with no shared code between platforms and effectively the 1st generation Matrix client. Which is why we replaced them over the last few years with Element X, with all the heavy lifting shared between iOS & Android via matrix-rust-sdk (effectively a 3rd gen Matrix SDK). That said, 70% of our use…
This isn't users not getting the memo yet, this is users being faced with an unfortunate choice between a buggy, slow client and a new client that doesn't implement important functionality like Spaces and Threads.
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#154Can someone that uses Matrix compare it to Zulip? Which would have been my "obvious" choice. Is it functionally comparable, discussion threads and all? Or is it much closer to something like Discord?
Matrix has threads. So does discord, but discords UI around them basically renders them functionally useless. Anyway, the first goal listed in this project was to move to European sovereign solutions so Zulip failed at the first hurdle. Given the (lack of) speed of European bureaucracy, this is likely more a reaction to the US sanctioning the ICC than the more recent Greenland saber rattling, but you'll probably see…
Matrix has threads in a sense, but in this very thread the project lead is talking about how the new, ostensibly less buggy and more performant flagship client does not yet fully support them.
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Element is buggy Someone should tell the CEO/CTO of Element
Speaking as the CEO/CTO of Element... the classic Element apps on mobile were buggy, thanks to being a ~10 year old codebase with no shared code between platforms and effectively the 1st generation Matrix client. Which is why we replaced them over the last few years with Element X, with all the heavy lifting shared between iOS & Android via matrix-rust-sdk (effectively a 3rd gen Matrix SDK). That said, 70% of our use…
I've only started my Matrix journey, in the form of writing bots using the matrix Python library. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, as the Matrix protocol could be really impactful.
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Declaration for European Digital Sovereignty defined digital sovereignty as the EU and its Member States' ability to act autonomously and to freely choose their own solutions, while reaping the benefits of collaboration with global partners, when possible. The UK is not the EU or a member state. Part of Russia is in Europe. Do you believe Russian products were considered?
And this comment chain adds what exactly? It’s pretty obvious why the UK is considered more European than the US, and equally obvious too why Russia is not considered in that tent. Pretending it’s not just so you can disagree with a comment adds nothing and is an example of why HN is so often a tedious place.
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speaking as the CEO/CTO of Element... the classic Element apps on mobile were buggy, thanks to being a ~10 year old codebase with no shared code between platforms and effectively the 1st generation Matrix client. Which is why we replaced them over the last few years with Element X, with all the heavy lifting shared between iOS & Android via matrix-rust-sdk (effectively a 3rd gen Matrix SDK). That said, 70% of our use…
Can i ask why is Element Classic even available on the Google Play Store? If you want people to move away from this? I've only started my Matrix journey, in the form of writing bots using the matrix Python library. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, as the Matrix protocol could be really impactful.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
It works faster & better than Signal Desktop.
Genuinely surprised at this - I've never heard of signal desktop not being fast, or good. Works a1 for me.
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#159Someone once said to me, be very careful about negotiating with leverage… when you twist someone’s arm, they’ll say, “I’ll remember that. You may have won this one, but I’m gonna win the next one.” Sadly, the US has done this to ourselves… all this arm twisting and strong-manning is coming home to roost. It’s not clear that patchwork EU government back offices migrating off Teams will hurt US tech, but long term, in…
> EU can’t out innovate US tech why not? Okay not today but China was known as the cheap copier and is now the innovator.
If so, I think the onus would be on you to prove it, not me.
Or, more importantly, if you really think the EU will be a tech powerhouse, shouldn’t you be writing checks to their startups left and right?
Because I think that would be the revealed preference here. I’m guessing you’re not heavily invested in EU tech companies, right? Because that would say a lot about your true beliefs.
Re: European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Mobile notifications for organizations with up to 10 users Why does the self-hosted edition have this restriction? If the software is truly OSS, the limit could be trivially patched. But this kind of restriction just does not inspire much confidence in the project to be honest.
Because mobile notifications require integration with operators and cost money. This is not about the ones that are pushed over IP, this is about mobile push.
This puts the operational costs (number of devices and notifications) on whomever is running the server - and because of how valuable metadata is, I expect them to be run in-house by governments