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Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by billynomates »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #142

I have had a bad experience with Anki so far. Maybe someone can chime in, clearing things up for me: When I search for HSK vocabulary Anki decks or whatever they call it, I found almost exclusively sets of words that are the wrong way around. They showed me the Chinese characters and asked me what the English translation is. I was incredulous about how many wrong decks there are and that I could not find good decks.…

You can do that easily with Anki as others have mentioned, however it is generally recommended to create your own cards since the process of researching, phrasing, and formatting the content serves as the crucial first stage of cognitive encoding. By actively deciding how to simplify a concept or which image best represents a term, you are building unique neural "hooks" that link new information to your existing knowledge. This personal investment transforms the card from a dry piece of data into a meaningful memory, making it far more resistant to forgetting than a generic card designed by a stranger.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by stuxnet79 »

trms wrote: post #96

When a popular, free and open source passion project led by a single dev moves into the hands of a company that needs to sustain its 30-people team [0], you know what happens next. AnkiHub's modus operandi has been to take over communities or projects where free exchange happens and monetize/paywall them. If you've been a part of the /r/medicalschoolanki subreddit, you know exactly what I mean. It's been hollowed out…

This is the correct take. It's over for Anki. Even assuming a best case scenario where the status quo remains and AnkiWeb continues to be "free", all the valuable data collected in AnkiWeb is now ripe for paywalling & potential abuse. The AnkiWeb privacy policy is likely to undergo a change quite soon - https://ankiweb.net/account/privacy

A really disappointing development all around & I hope it galvanizes the community to fully disassociate itself from AnkiHub & dae.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by account42 »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #45
surrTurr wrote: post #17

> What We Don’t Know Yet > Governance and decision-making: How decisions are made, who has final say, and how the community is heard > Roadmap and priorities: What gets built when and how to balance competing needs > The transition itself: How to bring in more support without disrupting what already works In other words: they have no clue what to do next ( https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/ankis-growing-up/68610/2#p-1905.…

From the posts, it sounds like the original maintainer was approaching the point where they'd just abandon it, so this overall seems like a better outcome than either abandonment or sale to a PE firm.

That remains to be seen. Many things are much worse than "abandonment" for completed software.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by hermanzegerman »

mbanerjeepalmer wrote: post #133
infotainment wrote: post #5

On the plus side, the actually good mobile Anki client, AnkiDroid, remains out of the hands of this potentially questionable new entity. (AnkiDroid has always been run independently, which is good, considering the state of the iOS client, which has always been neglected.)

Given that push notifications haven't worked in AnkiDroid for years, it doesn't feel good to me?

Why would you need push notifications on AnkiDroid?

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by zelphirkalt »

bangonkeyboard wrote: post #42
pityJuke wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha [0], that is neat. [0]: https://docs.ankiweb.net/sync-server.html

I've tried several times before to install syncserver using those pip instructions, on multiple platforms, without success.

The pip instructions are bad. Typical Python things: Non-reproducible, not involving a proper lock file. Cargo instructions seem not much better, since they are only referring to a tag in the git repo. The installation from "package build" leak user and password in shell history.

Overall this doesn't inspire much confidence in how solid and tested the procedure is.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by coldblues »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #138
saubeidl wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, FSRS is much better. For me it was the difference between learning 10 new words of Mandarin a day and learning 20, with the same time commitment.

To me it sounds like an incredible speed to learn even 10 Mandarin words per day, let alone 20. So extreme, that I must wonder, what definition of "Mandarin words" and what definition of "learned" you are using, when you are writing that, or, that you are an extreme outlier in terms of memorizing visual information. For me really learning a word means: (1) Knowing how to say it. (2) Knowing how to write it, meaning t…

You've just admitted that the way you use "learn" is different. It's you who is using it differently from the commonly agreed upon way. (3) is arbitrary, ideally you would want to remember the words for your entire lifetime. A lot of people don't care about (2), you'd only care if you want to live in the country and are presented with a lot of paperwork.

You learn the words for a day (you're able to match the sounds and meaning to it). You will forget a lot of them tomorrow, so now you have to re-learn them. This is just how Anki works. You keep learning and re-learning until they stick for a prolonged period of time. It's common for Japanese learners to add between 20 or 30 words to their learning queue.

If you understand how Anki works, you will also understand how the word learning is used in relation to its flashcard mechanism.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by Aldipower »

Timpy wrote: post #62

I discovered Anki 12 years ago while living in Japan. I was trying my hardest and absolutely failing to remember any of the Japanese I was studying. Maybe I was due for a learning-style renaissance for myself and Anki was just the catalyst, but it really made a positive impact on my life. More than just memorizing kanji on AnkiDroid during my commute, I just started to believe I could learn anything. I was starting t…

Same for me, while I learned Danish, which is even harder then Japanese.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by zelphirkalt »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #51
zozbot234 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iOS app has never been free and that's the way most people use it these days. Desktop computing is a niche.

This may be true, but as someone who picked up Anki as a desktop app back around 2009 it feels a little crazy. I also can’t imagine making cards on a phone, given how much switching between apps/windows is involved and how poor mobile platforms are at multitasking. It’s difficult to envision it being anything but maddening.

That's how some people do their "computing" these days, if they do any that deserves the name at all. I had to do some of that on vacation. With a modern phone it's possible, but mentally taxing. Phones feel like MS-DOS operating systems, where each application is fullscreen. Most people are just consumers. This is probably true for Anki decks as well. Only a small minority creates decks, the vast majority only consumes.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by hermanzegerman »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #26
hermanzegerman wrote: post #22

Oh for fucks sakes. No please no. AnkiHub was already annoying with shoving AI into their Add-On without anyone asking for it. I don't think this will go well

Can't help but wonder if it might not be time to start a FOSS alternative just in case Anki begins to decline. It might not be the worst idea to do that anyway. Anki is great, but there's plenty of room for improvement. Off the top of my head, an architecture that doesn't involve fragile and finicky python bits and is designed to support multiple independent clients would be a nice step up (Telegram is a good model h…

Anki already is FOSS and AGPLv3, so we can always fork

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by lovestory »

hermanzegerman wrote: post #154
mbanerjeepalmer wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that push notifications haven't worked in AnkiDroid for years, it doesn't feel good to me?

Why would you need push notifications on AnkiDroid?

Duolingo effect, people will forget to do the learning if they are not reminded
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