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Ross Stevens Donates $100M to Pay Every US Olympian and Paralympian $200k

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Re: Ross Stevens Donates $100M to Pay Every US Olympian and Paralympian $200k

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Post by zaphirplane »

wqaatwt wrote: post #132
somenameforme wrote: post #115

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Estimates for deaths we caused in Iraq range from the low hundreds of thousands to the millions, and that's going to be overwhelmingly civilians. [1] And given those are all very short time estimates (generally 2003-2007), and since many studies are from violent deaths only (excluding subsequent caused famine/disease/despair/etc) the millions is likely closer to the mark than not. Compare that to the death toll in an…

> deaths we caused in Iraq Doesn’t much change the horrible situation but overwhelming majority of them were indirect. Not quite the same as carpet bombing a densely inhabited city. Also well.. if you look at Sadam’s death toll in the 80s and 90s it isn’t really lower. Rather a low standard of course…

The disclaimers speak loudly what are you trying to say

Re: Ross Stevens Donates $100M to Pay Every US Olympian and Paralympian $200k

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Post by zaphirplane »

wqaatwt wrote: post #135
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #131

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>Israel is fighting with a significantly higher amount of restraint and morality than their opponent Gaza would not be starving were this the case, and you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting otherwise.

Please don’t be absurd.. or are you one of the people pretending that the October 7th attacks didn’t happen or that the victims somehow deserved it? What Israel ended up doing in Gaza ended up being extremely horrible. But what options did they really have? Not doing anything would have been the same(or worse) than the US ignoring 9/11… Hamas on the other hand had the option to stop the war at anytime they wanted, th…

Not kill children is the start , then not kill the innocent and then move to the civilized world conduct. Fairly low bar to meet.

Re: Ross Stevens Donates $100M to Pay Every US Olympian and Paralympian $200k

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Post by foogazi »

somenameforme wrote: post #115
an0malous wrote: post #68

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I would have never guessed that a significant portion of western society would not only be ok with killing thousands of children but be outraged that anyone would protest it. I feel like I have more information about the world than ever and understand it less than ever.

Estimates for deaths we caused in Iraq range from the low hundreds of thousands to the millions, and that's going to be overwhelmingly civilians. [1] And given those are all very short time estimates (generally 2003-2007), and since many studies are from violent deaths only (excluding subsequent caused famine/disease/despair/etc) the millions is likely closer to the mark than not. Compare that to the death toll in an…

> Estimates for deaths we caused in Iraq range from the low hundreds of thousands to the millions

How many do you estimate you caused ?

Re: Ross Stevens Donates $100M to Pay Every US Olympian and Paralympian $200k

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Post by stouset »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #125
stouset wrote: post #89

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We have now moved the goalposts from starting to build generational wealth to maybe part of a down payment on a house in a low-demand area in their mid-forties, assuming they have enough income to still qualify for the loan on the property. This is a great gift to the athletes, don’t get me wrong. There was just no need to oversell it.

> moved the goalposts from starting to build generational wealth to maybe part of a down payment on a house in a low-demand area in their mid-forties On what planet are hundreds of thousands of dollars not generational wealth if played right? You’re talking about sums that are on par with the 401(k)s of retiring union workers. It’s not riches. But it’s enough to pass along to your heirs. That’s generational wealth.

On the planet where inflation turns $100k into an effective $20k by the time you family sees it.

If your only metric for generational wealth is that the next generation of your family gets it, then sure, tautologically the second amount paid out to your surviving family qualifies. I don’t think most people would consider splitting $20k amongst your heirs to be generational wealth, and I don’t think retiring union workers are a classic generationally-wealthy example that comes to mind for most people.

And again, note that retiring union workers today might hand down a $100k 401(k) to their families. At the time of the athlete’s death ~50 years from now, that number will likely be closer to $500k.

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Post by mhb »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #144
csense wrote: post #127

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I'm surprised that a significant portion of western society has any sympathy for the Palestinian side after October 7. Hamas started a war and used a bunch of heinous tactics -- kidnapping and murdering a bunch of random civilians, putting bases in hospitals, stealing food aid, and so on. Israel tries to avoid casualties when they can. For example when Hamas launches rockets at Israeli civilian targets, they shoot th…

History did not begin October 7th, 2023. We are capable of looking at prior events to see that the story is not so clear cut.

When are you thinking history began? 1948?

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Post by C6JEsQeQa5fCjE »

mhb wrote: post #156
xboxnolifes wrote: post #144

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History did not begin October 7th, 2023. We are capable of looking at prior events to see that the story is not so clear cut.

When are you thinking history began? 1948?

For the part of the history relevant to the topic, you have to go back to at least November 2, 1917 [1].

From the same page: "1901 the Sublime Porte (the Ottoman central government) gave Jews the same rights as Arabs to buy land in Palestine and the percentage of Jews in the population rose to 7% by 1914"

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

Re: Ross Stevens Donates $100M to Pay Every US Olympian and Paralympian $200k

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Post by rsanek »

irishcoffee wrote: post #47
Carrok wrote: post #29

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“You only get this money if you submit yourself to Christ and living a conservative lifestyle” Still not worth questioning?

That isn’t a donation. Also, $donator is making, as far as I know, zero demands. These people would be competing if they had to pay. Actually, most of them do have to pay. Your analogy is comparing apples-to-sqrt(-1)

Many, if not most, donations have limits / requirements on what the money can be spent on. That's why it's such a big deal when someone doesn't make such a demand and says the grant is "unrestricted."

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Post by maxerickson »

fn-mote wrote: post #39
maxerickson wrote: post #22

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That's like $75 a year of term life insurance for a young healthy person.

Not to be too pedantic, but this is not a term life insurance policy. It's a guaranteed benefit, so you should compare it to a "whole" life insurance policy (US terms). I see $500k benefit for $500+/mo, so I guess $100k benefit is $100/mo. Not amazing but not a joke either.

I agree that whole is a better comparison to the actual value.

I was responding to the freedom to spend the other poster had in their second paragraph, where I think it's reasonable to look at the insurance that would be better to actually buy.

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Post by adastra22 »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #150
solumunus wrote: post #141

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So I guess no one is actually going to try and answer the question?

I think that a better response would have been much, much more targeted. Strategically, Israel have put themselves in a much worse position vis a vis the rest of the world (and importantly the US) by the indiscriminate leveling of Gaza. So it would have been much more like a police action than a war. Maybe take lessons (god I can't believe I'm saying this) from how the British responded to the nationalist terrorism/f…

Targeted urban warfare is exactly what happened in Gaza, which had one of the LOWEST civilian death rates for urban warfare in this century. It was 1/4 that rate of the US army in fallujah for example.

Talk of “genocide” and “indiscriminate leveling of Gaza” indicates to me that you didn’t really understand the situation and probably get your news from propaganda sources - which, unfortunately, include nearly all media sources in this conflict.

Northern Ireland was a gang/rebel group in occupied territory. Hamas is the government of Gaza, and Israel had no boots on the ground on Oct 6th. The situations are not in any way comparable.

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