In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives • Hacker News Board

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by lazyeye » Thu, Jan 29, 2026, 11:14 PM UTC

ModernMech wrote: post #150

lazyeye wrote: post #144

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This is the world we live in now I guess, where everything you don't like is AI

That's not what I said, I said I've witnessed AI cars explode like that, but I've never seen a real car explode like that. Ask yourself the simple question: where is that car? If that happened, let's see the actual car up close. Let's actually get a shot of that damage that occurred. We'll never see that because that car is not damaged in that way, because this thing is false. > where everything you don't like is AI…

Ummm ok then...will leave it there.

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by morgengold » Fri, Jan 30, 2026, 9:49 AM UTC

oliwarner wrote: post #122

morgengold wrote: post #119

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What problems did "Woke" (I'm not sure it's a thing , but whatever) have with the truth? Are we talking about opinionated gender vs biological sex? Or how others shouldn't offend? Trans women sports? If it is, I think these are firmly opinions about inclusion. Asking people to ignore biological sex isn't the same thing as saying he said Greenland when he said Iceland. It's weird that you even think them comparable.

Yes, for example you named it.

I agree, these are completely different things. But what is more or less important for changing political reality, is not obvious. I dont buy such arguments like "it is only language".

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 30, 2026, 4:18 PM UTC

pstuart wrote: post #146

rationalist wrote: post #137

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> blaming the victims for their fate I don't blame them for getting shot. From what I can tell, they should not have been shot. Since when is victim-blaming binary? I can't say that victims should be aware that their actions or choices have consequences? > masked men with guns Did they not know they were going to protest ICE? That they were masked? (And that they're masked because people are harassing them and others…

Please note that my objective in this discussion is to try and reach some sort of consensus, and that text communication can easily be misconstrued even when both parties know each other and are "on the same side". The situation with ICE is in a sense uncharted territory (even with traditional abuses by police there's ostensibly some accountability, but ICE has been declared by the administration to have carte blanch…

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Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 30, 2026, 7:29 PM UTC

direwolf20 wrote: post #147

etchalon wrote: post #115

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Maybe the federal government shouldn't be sending "pretty much just militarized citizens with lacking experience" into "stressful situations." Kooky idea, I know.

Maybe the state government should send the state police to arrest the murderers. Kooky idea, I know.

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Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by fleroviumna » Sat, Jan 31, 2026, 1:42 PM UTC

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Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by lazyeye » Sun, Feb 01, 2026, 12:02 AM UTC

cwillu wrote: post #33

lazyeye wrote: post #16

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According to your own numbers, Clinton and Obama managed to to deport 15 million people, and somehow they managed to do it without executing any citizens in the street.

I dont think you read the original grandparent comment. There absolutely reasons why the chaos is happening now and not under Clinton or Obama.

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Feb 01, 2026, 6:58 AM UTC

text0404 wrote: post #110

hubber wrote: post #107

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Truly ridiculous. I briefly wondered if you actually believe this rhetoric, but then I saw your three-day-old account. Not going to debate with someone who doesn't have the courage to stand behind their convictions. Your account is a throwaway and only exists to launder white supremacist talking points. Best of luck with your new American government, we all know it ended well for the leaders of Italy and Germany.

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