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Post by filoeleven »

0x3f wrote: post #99
BigglesB wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m reading “ultra-capitalists” here as “those that control an extreme proportion of capital” rather than “those who believe really strongly in capitalism as a system”, though tbf that venn diagram may well be a donut…

Technically, Venn Diagrams don't show _degree_ of overlap :) Although re your actual point: the current admin only gifts things like this to a chosen few; a small subset of those with extreme capital. So it seems much more appropriate to call it cronyism, or some such thing, rather than capitalism in the sense of merely controlling capital.

Crony capitalism is a well-established term for a reason.

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Post by joe_mamba »

gambiting wrote: post #137
joe_mamba wrote: post #106

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>>There's etiquette when dealing with police that people seem to have forgotten. You are literally insane if you think this is a matter of "etiquette" or that it was an accident. Essex police haven't fired a single bullet in the last 10 years, and they are able to provide effective policing anyway. But in US a bunch of gestapo officers have a man pinned to the ground, with his gun taken away, and then they shoot him?…

>Essex police haven't fired a single bullet in the last 10 years, and they are able to provide effective policing anyway.

Only if you misreport crime, ignore grooming gangs and arrest people for Tweets as "effective policing" in the UK.

>And I repeat, it's not an accident. If it was, they would have shot him once.

Police are trained to always fire multiple shots, as learned from firefight reports, people are left in capacity to fire back even when they have several rounds in them.

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Post by koonsolo »

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #121
koonsolo wrote: post #116

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Then tell us what powers does the Dutch NATO chief has to make a deal in name of Greenland and Denmark. Trump got empty hands, he got totally played by the nice words of Rutte. Edit: Your conversation is really mind boggling: "Trump got a great deal on Greenland!" "What deal?" "How would I know?!?!?!"

It is not mind boggling if you don't manipulate quotes to fit for your narrative.

Nice way of avoiding the main question: What deal? There is no new deal between Greenland/Denmark and US.

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

callamdelaney wrote: post #19
jesseendahl wrote: post #13

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Finneas (Billie Eilish's brother) isn't one for virtue signaling from what I've seen over the years from his posts. He keeps it very real and down to earth as far as celebrities go.

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When the person's Wikipedia page says that they "have won 10 Grammy Awards" then yes, I think it's fair to say that they are a public figure.

I mean, both are signals of celebrity - the presence of a Wikipedia page, and the awards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finneas_O%27Connell

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Post by filoeleven »

keybored wrote: post #96
scotty79 wrote: post #71

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I recently saw an interesting explanation. The point was, that capitalism is not (just) an economical system. It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. If you take this stance, capitalism is to blame for all the good and bad things that happen in the capitalist country. Democracy is just the way how capital rules.

> It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. ... Democracy is just the way how capital rules. That’s a contradiction.

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

"I did," said Ford. "It is."

"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"

"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

- Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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Post by joe_mamba »

saubeidl wrote: post #132
joe_mamba wrote: post #128

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How so? When I said "every political party" meaning including the ones under the liberal democratic umbrella.

Yes, but also the ones on the way to authoritarianism, as was argued the Trump regime is. Thus, currently allowing some criticism is not enough to disprove the alleged march towards fascism. People with that viewpoint would argue that it's only allowed because power isn't consolidated enough yet.

>Yes, but also the ones on the way to authoritarianism, as was argued the Trump regime is.

Democrats/leftists/ANTIFA don't hate authoritarianism, They hate that they're not the ones in charge of dealing the authoritarianism on their opposition, as shown by the masked mob gestapo they set up in Minnesota doing "papers please, you're either with us or against us" on civilians passing by to confirm they hate ICE.

If Kamala-Walz would have won the election, they would have done the same to Trump and friends in republican states, and you would have called it "justice for Nazis", not fascism ,which is the justification ANTIFA use when they beat up innocent people.

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Post by zombot »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #143
iceflinger wrote: post #139

Not sure why this is flagged? One of the largest social media platforms in the industry changed ownership, its user base is noticing an unexplained change in functionality? Surely that warrants a discussion among tech people?

these topics are controversial for people who support the current US government, they don't want to see it on their tech-news website (even though it's called hacker news, the spirit of the hacker manifesto is not alive here). Funnily enough, these flagged topics seem to spark a lot of conversation, and the voices of the government supporters are not heard here...So they just flag and move on, not even trying to defe…

> not even trying to defend their position

Hard to do when your position is essentially indefensible.

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Post by saubeidl »

joe_mamba wrote: post #149
saubeidl wrote: post #134

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He was shot eleven times to the back of his head .

>eleven times to the back of his head Please stop making up stuff.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/24/us/minneapoli...

Feel free to look at the timeline here.

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Post by filoeleven »

0xy wrote: post #30
saubeidl wrote: post #17

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US laws, hmm. Wasn't there something about an amendment to their constitution? I believe it might've even been the first? Something about freedom of speech? Maybe I'm just misremembering, but I could've sworn conservatives kept harping on about it.

Did you have the same concerns when Biden's DoJ was colluding with social media to censor narratives they didn't like politically? https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admi...

You mean "politely asking social media to censor narratives, with the implied force of the federal government if they choose not to comply." Which every administration has done since social media became a thing.

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Post by keybored »

filoeleven wrote: post #155
keybored wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. ... Democracy is just the way how capital rules. That’s a contradiction.

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..." "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?" "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the peopl…

Perfect drivel.
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