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I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by pixl97 »

raincole wrote: post #60
superb_dev wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author was using instance A of Claude to update a `claude.md` while another instance B of Claude was consuming that file. When Claude B did something wrong, the author asked Claude A to update the `claude.md` so that Claude B didn’t make the same mistake again

Which shouldn't be bannable imo. Rate throttle is a more reasonable response. But Anthropic didn't reply to the author, so we don't even know if it's the real reason they got banned.

>if it's the real reason they got banned.

I mean, what a country should do it put a law in effect. If you ban a user, the user can submit a request with their government issued ID and you must give an exact reason why they were banned. The company can keep this record in encrypted form for 10 years.

Failure to give the exact reason will lead to a $100,000 fine for the first offense and increase from there up to suspension of operations privileges in said country.

"But, but, but hackers/spammers will abuse this". For one, boo fucking hoo. For two, just add to the bill "Fraudulent use of law to bypass system restrictions is a criminal offense".

This puts companies in a position where they must be able to justify their actual actions, and it also puts scammers at risk if they abuse the system.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by thtmnisamnstr »

bastard_op wrote: post #108

I've been doing something a lot like this, using a claude-desktop instance attached to my personal mcp server to spawn claude-code worker nodes for things, and for a month or two now it's been working great using the main desktop chat as a project manager of sorts. I even started paying for MAX plan as I've been using it effectively to write software now (I am NOT a developer). Lately it's gotten entirely flaky, wher…

Gemini CLI is a solid alternative to Claude Code. The limits are restrictive, though. If you're paying for Max, I can't imagine Gemini CLI will take you very far.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by Bootvis »

ryandrake wrote: post #96
superb_dev wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did we read the same article? The author comes of as pretty frustrated but not unhinged

I wouldn't say "unhinged" either, but maybe just struggling to organize and express thoughts clearly in writing. "Organizations of late capitalism, unite"?

The author was frustrated that the error message identified him as an organisation (that was disabled) and mockingly refers to himself as the (disabled) organisation in the post.

At least, that’s my reading but it appears it confuses about half of the commenters here.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by alistairSH »

epolanski wrote: post #22
alistairSH wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like he had a circular prompt process running, where multiple instances of Claude were solving problems, feeding results to each other, and possibly updating each other's control files?

What would be bad in that? Writing the best possible specs for these agents seems the most productive goal they could achieve.

Nothing necessarily or obviously bad about it, just trying to think through what went wrong.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by [deleted] »

syntaxing wrote: post #115
bastard_op wrote: post #108

I've been doing something a lot like this, using a claude-desktop instance attached to my personal mcp server to spawn claude-code worker nodes for things, and for a month or two now it's been working great using the main desktop chat as a project manager of sorts. I even started paying for MAX plan as I've been using it effectively to write software now (I am NOT a developer). Lately it's gotten entirely flaky, wher…

Serious question, why is codex and mistral(vibe) not a real alternative?

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Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by mikkupikku »

ffsm8 wrote: post #124
mikkupikku wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not "victim blaming" to point out that we lack sufficient information to really know who the victim even is, or if there's one at all. Believing complainants uncritically isn't some sort of virtue you can reasonably expect people to adhere to. (My bet is that Anthropic's automated systems erred, but the author's flamboyant manner of writing (particularly the way he keeps making a big deal out of an error message…

Skip to the end of the article. He says himself that this is a guess and provides the "missing" information if you are actually interested in it.

I read it, and it's not enough to make a judgement either way. For all we know none of this had anything to do with his ban and he was banned for something he did the day before. There's no way for third parties to be sure of anything in this kind of situation, where one party shares only the information they wish and the other side stays silent as a matter of default corporate policy.

I am not saying that the author was in the wrong and deserved to be banned. I'm saying that neither I nor you can know for sure.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by darkwater »

rvba wrote: post #33
alistairSH wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not alone. I think the author was doing some sort of circular prompt injection between two instances of Claude? The author claims "I'm just scaffolding a project" but that doesn't appear to be the case, or what resulted in the ban...

What is wrong with circular prompt injection? The "disabled organization" looks like a sarcastic comment on the crappy error code the author got when banned.

> What is wrong with circular prompt injection?

That you might be trying to jailbreak Claude and Anthropic does not like that (I'm not endorsing, just trying to understand).

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by alistairSH »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #55
alistairSH wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like he had a circular prompt process running, where multiple instances of Claude were solving problems, feeding results to each other, and possibly updating each other's control files?

Could anyone explain to me what the problem is with this? I thought I was fairly up to date on these things, but this was a surprise to me. I see the sibling comment getting downvoted but I promise I'm asking this in good faith, even if it might seem like a silly question (?) for some reason.

From what I'm reading in other comments, the problem was Claude1 got increasingly "frustrated" with Claude2's inability to do whatever the human was asking, and started breaking it's own rules (using ALL CAPS).

Sort of like MS's old chatbot that turned into a Nazi overnight, but this time with one agent simply getting tired of the other agent's lack of progress (for some definition of progress - I'm still not entirely sure what the author was feeding into Claude1 alongside errors from Claude2).

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by notsure2 »

sixtyj wrote: post #149
throwup238 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has been flying by the seat of their pants for a while now and it shows across the board. From the terminal flashing bug that’s been around for months to the lack of support to instabilities in Claude mobile and Code for the web (I get 10-20% message failure rates on the former and 5-10% on CC for web). They’re growing too fast and it’s bursting the seams of the company. If there’s ever a correction in the…

They whistleblowed themselves that Claude Cowork was coded by Claude Code… :)

Whistleblowed dog food.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by olalonde »

superb_dev wrote: post #31
cortesoft wrote: post #5

I am really confused as to what happened here. The use of ‘disabled organization’ to refer to the author made it extra confusing. I think I kind of have an idea what the author was doing, but not really.

The author was using instance A of Claude to update a `claude.md` while another instance B of Claude was consuming that file. When Claude B did something wrong, the author asked Claude A to update the `claude.md` so that Claude B didn’t make the same mistake again

I don't understand how having two separate instances of Claude helps here. I can understand using multiple Claude instances to work in parallel but in this case, it seems all this process is linear...
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