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California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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California has already invested a lot into reservoirs. In fact, as a pilot, I recall noticing that nearly all lakes in California are actually man-made reservoirs. I doubt there is much room left for economically building more; all the easy ones have been taken, and more. Surely the cost benefit of just investing a lot into desalination must be getting close.

Well, the California Coastal Commission put the kibosh a few years ago on a decades-long desalination project: https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/05/california-desali... I haven't heard of any new desalination projects making headway since. The cost-benefit analysis may favor it, but I'm not sure the politics do. Of course, those politics will probably change in 10-15 years in our next big drought cycle, and the…

Doheny was approved shortly after the Huntington Beach desal plant was killed. Update from last month: https://www.ocregister.com/2025/11/26/landfill-trash-could-h...

Poseidon currently runs a desal plant in Carlsbad. My understanding is that the water the plant releases into the ocean requires exemptions for how concentrated it is. Additionally, the plant draws plankton filled water. Not really what we want in California.

There are better desal solutions out there like OceanWell. They have a deep water desalination solution that solves many of the problems of conventional desal. They just signed a project in Nice, France in the past few days. Also, they are working with the city of Las Virgines over the past few years.

If I remember correctly, the new desal plant in Doheny has a slightly different approach to draw water in from beneath the sand, using the sand as a prefilter. But I'm not sure how that works better than drawing water in from near the surface. I can't imagine how the plankton can possibly escape the suction forces drawing them into the sand.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Makes for a catchy headline, but you only have to go back to Jan 9, 2024* to find a similarly 'drought free' California: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx (*Technically slivers of the state in the far north/south were 'abnormally dry' in 2024, a small difference from 2026)

For a quicker way to find near-alls you can go to https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/DmData/DataTables.aspx?state,... and select "All" at the bottom then sort D0-D4 ascending. It looks like 2011 had many dates 0.01 cumulative percent area!

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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As John Steinback said in East of Eden : “I have spoken of the rich years when the rainfall was plentiful. But there were dry years too, and they put a terror on the valley. The water came in a thirty-year cycle. There would be five or six wet and wonderful years when there might be nineteen to twenty-five inches of rain, and the land would shout with grass. Then would come six or seven pretty good years of twelve to…

how to be a novelist: use 10^n words when 10^(n-1) will do.

Maybe he could have just replaced that whole section with a couple graphs showing average rainfall and crop yield for the Salinas Valley.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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That was widely ridiculed, but despite how it sometimes seems policy makers are not so stupid to believe saving water from cups not drunk would make a meaningful difference directly. One of the big hurdles for changing human behavior at scale is improving awareness. Even people who want to conserve their water usage benefit from frequent reminders to actually make changes stick. Being reminded the state is in a droug…

This is a great example of how patronizing policies developed by intellectual authorities backfire in the real world. The premise is, the general population is too stupid to do the right thing themselves and need to be reminded of the drought by being inconvenienced by completely ineffective performative policies. All this actually does in practice is diminish trust in authorities to make good decisions. If the droug…

You didn't use the word "almonds" in this post and for that I commend you.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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As John Steinback said in East of Eden : “I have spoken of the rich years when the rainfall was plentiful. But there were dry years too, and they put a terror on the valley. The water came in a thirty-year cycle. There would be five or six wet and wonderful years when there might be nineteen to twenty-five inches of rain, and the land would shout with grass. Then would come six or seven pretty good years of twelve to…

how to be a novelist: use 10^n words when 10^(n-1) will do.

I think there are authors where this definitely applies and I don’t think Steinbeck is one of them.

It feels analogous to complaining about how Michelangelo painted the Sistine chapel on the ceiling instead of on a canvas where we wouldn’t have to crane our necks to see it.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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It’s important to note that rainfall in CA is not 100% natural. The state actively funds cloud seeding. https://www.grants.ca.gov/grants/gfo-23-311-advancing-precip... Example of a recent $2.5M grant. This information is often buried in budgets under applied research grants. I suspect they obscure this information because it could create liabilities, for example, if gov funded rain seeding creates flooding and human…

If you’re truly interested in the subject, contact the organizations actually doing research in the subject. Leave your tinfoil hat at home.

There are companies that do cloud seeding:

https://www.rainmaker.com/

>Though cloud seeding has been in use around the world for 80 years, we recognize that people have valid questions about how the technology works.

Nothing tinfoil about it.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Ironically, the rest of the country is having a drought: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2026/01/18/winter-dro...

Unironically, wet / dry cycles isn't good news for California either. Research published in the aftermath of the fire examines how this extremely wet to extremely dry weather sequence is especially dangerous for wildfires in Southern California because heavy rainfall leads to high growth of grass and brush, which then becomes abundant fuel during periods of extreme dryness.

welcome to australia

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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As John Steinback said in East of Eden : “I have spoken of the rich years when the rainfall was plentiful. But there were dry years too, and they put a terror on the valley. The water came in a thirty-year cycle. There would be five or six wet and wonderful years when there might be nineteen to twenty-five inches of rain, and the land would shout with grass. Then would come six or seven pretty good years of twelve to…

> And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry years. It was always that way. Just as true with economic cycles and so many other things.

the 80 year cycle

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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I wonder how much of an effect human activity has on these cycles. Obviously, there are cycles within nature that don't include human activity but is this particular "equilibrium" (if we could call it that) the result of human settlements and all that entails or have they always happened this way but without a huge chunk of the population being in the midst of these modulations to witness it and be affected by it.

This might be a good time to recommend you all read the first 5 pages of East of Eden by George Steinbeck. It’s about how the Salinas valley goes through flood and draught cycles, and how every time they’re in one cycle they forget the other one ever happened

For a non-fiction look at the topic of water in California - and really the whole shaping of the state - I highly recommend "Dreamt Land".
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