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Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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You can run .net over wine no?

It's complicated... there's Windows .net apps (which run in wine through mono), there's Linux .net apps (that get run with dotnet), and there's apps that have to be run through mono directly.

IIUC, Microsoft bought-out Mono and donated it to Wine, making it effectively legacy. It probably still 'works', but not many big IT departments are going to run critical apps on some old unsupported hackjob.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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Exchange is very dependent on Win32 and .NET Framework. As is ODSP and Dynamics. Azure under the hood is Hyper-V with most services built upon that dependency. Yes, millions of man hours, monkies, and typewriters you could transform this to Linux. The economics aren't there when Azure/M365 keeps pulling in money running on it's current platform hand over fist.

Over 60% of customer workloads running on Azure are Linux. And that statistic is skewed by those using things like AzureAD (basically workgroups). At some point it will become a burden to develop new technologies on Windows instead of Linux. If that hasn't already happened. Desktop already is a dwindling revenue stream for Microsoft. Microsoft is already pushing for companies, from small garage startups to mega enter…

All of those Linux workloads are running on NT.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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I'll consider switching to Linux when the GUI becomes as configurable as Windows 10 or earlier. For example, this is my taskbar layout: https://i.ibb.co/1GqKH27L/taskbar-layout.png To my knowledge, it's not possible to achieve anything like this layout on Windows 11, Linux or Mac. I did try it in various Linux distros a few times but frankly got sick of navigating the maze of window managers et cetera. I think someth…

If that's literally the only thing stopping you.. you could always just write it yourself ..

It's not the only thing, although it is a big one. Honestly Windows just feels better to me and works the way I want it to. It might help that I've always used enterprise versions so I've never had to deal with the awful bloatware. The few things I do want to disable are pretty painless to remove through the group policy editor or one of many freeware GUI tweaker programs.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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I'll consider switching to Linux when the GUI becomes as configurable as Windows 10 or earlier. For example, this is my taskbar layout: https://i.ibb.co/1GqKH27L/taskbar-layout.png To my knowledge, it's not possible to achieve anything like this layout on Windows 11, Linux or Mac. I did try it in various Linux distros a few times but frankly got sick of navigating the maze of window managers et cetera. I think someth…

Take a look at dash to panel gnome extension:

https://github.com/home-sweet-gnome/dash-to-panel

It's a very configurable extension for gnome that can do all you described except double stacking...

I've uploaded a video demo and a config file that makes it kinda like what you want, again no double stacking:

https://github.com/amlib/dash-to-panel-config/tree/main

You can also configure it to keep open window buttons separate from the launcher icons, but with the lack of double stacking I rather have it "take over" the launcher.

The way I've set it up it will also only show the open windows for the virtual desktop or screen the bar being shown at, which helps alleviate the crowding issue of only having one row.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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I don't want Linux to become as popular as Windows currently is. Its quality would decline drastically as it would be subjected to all sorts of corporate forces. I don't want it to become a commercially driven, adversarial OS like Windows and Mac OS. I want it to remain the free, stable and decent OS it currently is, in a comfortable 3rd place.

Surely the fact that it's open-source means that it can always be forked if it trends in a direction you don't like?

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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I'll consider switching to Linux when the GUI becomes as configurable as Windows 10 or earlier. For example, this is my taskbar layout: https://i.ibb.co/1GqKH27L/taskbar-layout.png To my knowledge, it's not possible to achieve anything like this layout on Windows 11, Linux or Mac. I did try it in various Linux distros a few times but frankly got sick of navigating the maze of window managers et cetera. I think someth…

Take a look at dash to panel gnome extension: https://github.com/home-sweet-gnome/dash-to-panel It's a very configurable extension for gnome that can do all you described except double stacking... I've uploaded a video demo and a config file that makes it kinda like what you want, again no double stacking: https://github.com/amlib/dash-to-panel-config/tree/main You can also configure it to keep open window buttons se…

Looks like an awesome project; thanks for sharing it.

On my next attempt at a Linux desktop I'll most certainly try it.

I'll also create a feature request for resizing/stacking of rows.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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I'll consider switching to Linux when the GUI becomes as configurable as Windows 10 or earlier. For example, this is my taskbar layout: https://i.ibb.co/1GqKH27L/taskbar-layout.png To my knowledge, it's not possible to achieve anything like this layout on Windows 11, Linux or Mac. I did try it in various Linux distros a few times but frankly got sick of navigating the maze of window managers et cetera. I think someth…

Took me about 2 minutes to replicate on KDE Plasma[0][1]. I have a lot more things in my taskbar that I don't want to remove for this test, so it looks a little more crammed up. [0] https://i.imgur.com/esNjPNg.png [1] I didn't try to replicate it perfectly; things like smaller icons/etc are settings but cba

As a sibling pointed out, the GP has two different rows. The closest I can get with out of the box Plasma is by creating two bottom panels.

But then, I really doubt the GP is using out of the box Windows.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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post #152
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Over 60% of customer workloads running on Azure are Linux. And that statistic is skewed by those using things like AzureAD (basically workgroups). At some point it will become a burden to develop new technologies on Windows instead of Linux. If that hasn't already happened. Desktop already is a dwindling revenue stream for Microsoft. Microsoft is already pushing for companies, from small garage startups to mega enter…

All of those Linux workloads are running on NT.

Are they? Not a single one of the other public clouds runs Windows at it's core...

As far as deployed operating systems go, Windows is in the extreme minority.

Re: Prediction: Microsoft will eventually ship a Windows-themed Linux distro

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post #151

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It's complicated... there's Windows .net apps (which run in wine through mono), there's Linux .net apps (that get run with dotnet), and there's apps that have to be run through mono directly.

IIUC, Microsoft bought-out Mono and donated it to Wine, making it effectively legacy. It probably still 'works', but not many big IT departments are going to run critical apps on some old unsupported hackjob.

Unless the app is also an unsupported hackjob. ;)
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