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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ryang2718 »

Mistletoe wrote: post #137
jdejean wrote: post #128

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Tahoe is uniquely bad in so many ways, so I tried the Asahi Fedora Remix with Gnome on my M2 Mac Mini. Aesthetically I was more attracted to Gnome, it feels like what we lost with Tahoe. Tahoe to me feels like a really chopped Android skin or something. I made it a few weeks on the Fedora Remix but ended up having to switch back to Mac over missing webcam drivers and other random hardware issues. Plus there’s little…

>ended up having to switch back to Mac over missing webcam drivers and other random hardware issues This has been my experience every time I try Linux. If I had to guess, tracing down all these little things is just that last mile that is so hard and isn't the fun stuff to do in making an OS, which is why it is always ignored. If Linux ever did it, it would keep me.

It can be very device specific unfortunately. Thinkpad tend to work quote well. I had a Framework that my wife took from me and it's truly fantastic, works out of the box.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ziml77 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #89
GrowingSideways wrote: post #19

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Can you interpret this comment for those of us that haven't used windows? All i can recall from "vista" is that it looked good

The Vista comparison is unfair. I think a lot of the bad rap Vista got was from trying to run it on underpowered hardware thanks to marketing XP-era machines as "Windows Vista Capable". I actually ran it on good HW (the kind that could run Crysis) and I didn't have anything bad to say. Yes, UAC could be considered as annoyance by some but it's no different than "sudo" on single-user Linux machines and we seemingly ha…

> Yes, UAC could be considered as annoyance by some but it's no different than "sudo" on single-user Linux machines and we seemingly have no problems with that (I wish we'd move on past that because it is damn annoying and offers no security benefit).

It was wild to me when I was testing out if I wanted to move over to Linux as my full-time desktop OS how much it was asking for my password. And it didn't even have a mechanism to make it a little less painful such as requesting a short PIN (which I think is a fine option as long as a few incorrect PIN entries forces full password input).

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by betaby »

em500 wrote: post #100
asaddhamani wrote: post #74

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Call me cynical but I think designers need to occasionally break things that were already solved long ago to justify their continued relevance. Explains a lot of redesigns that make things only worse, reshuffling interfaces, hiding things behind menus in form over function redesigns, etc.

Non-tech people tend to think similarly about developers, breaking things that worked fine until yesterday / last week / last month, for no user-visible benefit.

Sometimes that's true.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by trollbridge »

valleyer wrote: post #143
trollbridge wrote: post #105

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Yes, you can install any version of macOS that was ever supported for your Mac. (It’s been a long time since they used System Enablers.) I’m so frustrated with Tahoe that I’m about to do this.

But you cannot, in general, migrate your data backwards. Apple's system apps will upgrade their data stores forward only. This isn't a problem if you are willing to e.g. re-download all of your (Mail.app) mail.

I generally just “reload” everything.

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Post by Lammy »

masklinn wrote: post #130
AkelaA wrote: post #76

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It also - as seen in that screenshot, had large, always visible scrollbars where it was easy to see how far down you were in a folder or document, and could easily click and drag to scroll to where you needed. Now in the service of minimalism we have scrollbars that consist of a thin, semi-transparent line that fades out after half a second and is nearly impossible to click and drag due to how small it is.

> Now in the service of minimalism we have scrollbars that consist of a thin, semi-transparent line that fades out after half a second and is nearly impossible to click and drag due to how small it is. You can make them always on still. I've done so ever since their disappearing act started. It's not even much hidden, it's in the "Appearance" setting pane.

They're still too small and too light. Some times when a document is big enough I'm actually not able to find the scroll thumb on macOS Sequoia. Some times wiggling the scroll thumb around by scrolling slightly back and forth with my mousewheel/trackpad helps to make it visually appear, but other times I just have to give up.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lateforwork »

bikelang wrote: post #31

Should we crowdfund some billboards in Cupertino expressing how big a misstep we collectively think Tahoe/iOS 26/Liquid glAss was?

Yes, I would gladly contribute $25. You can rent partial time on an electronic billboard on Highway 101 for under $2K per month.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by wk_end »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #94
nextos wrote: post #40

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The Tiger to Snow Leopard era was fantastic. Things were simple and worked. There was also a great boutique apps ecosystem. Right now, it seems that macOS is going through its enshittification phase, sadly.

> Tiger to Snow Leopard era was fantastic. Things were simple and worked Was it also great for developers? (Genuine question.)

Yeah, OS X was definitely the nicest native development experience at the time. Apple's documentation was considerably better and more searchable back then than it is now (especially as it is now for desktop). And even though they've introduced lots of niceties (including Swift), as Apple's piled additional features and APIs into Cocoa/Xcode I find the overall experience quite a bit less coherent or intuitive or ergonomic than it used to be.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ervine »

kenanfyi wrote: post #48

I have been using Moom for a long time for especially two things: - moving windows without holding from any particular position - resizing windows without grabbing a particular corner Life changing small things.

I didn't realize it was moom giving me my "move app to other monitor" hotkey, and moom didn't launch on startup after upgrading to tahoe. I've been using that hotkey for years.

That's when I realized there's no default hotkey for moving an app to an external monitor. That is absolutely wild. (Happy to be wrong)

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by mrcwinn »

I started with an Apple Lisa. I’ve never enjoyed Apple products less than I do right now. And there were some rough days in the 90s! I switched from a AW Ultra 3 to a Garmin. Considering an S26 because of the semi-matte screen. The Mac, though, I probably can’t replace, but man Tahoe/Liquid Glass sucks.
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