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Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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psygn89 wrote: post #123
jwnin wrote: post #42

I use OneDrive at work for all of my documents and have never encountered the horror stories I frequently read. I read these stories often enough where I believe there genuinely is a problem. But I do wonder why there is a difference for some and not others. Perhaps I've conditioned myself to live with its faults? I will say that the Microsoft Office OneDrive save experience is completely subpar. It behaves completel…

I didn't have a problem until I migrated to another Mac. Then I started having duplicate files. I think I fixed it by logging out of everything and deleting the duplicates but it was a couple hours wasted. Didn't have this problem with Dropbox in my career.

Definitely and still a happy paying Dropbox user, even though I'm well within my free limits (after several referral storage bumps). IT pretty much just works, but the Linux experience could use some updates.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by slowmovintarget »

juancn wrote: post #33

Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.

Ha... Ha haha haha... Ha!

Valve saw exactly this scenario, because you're right: Windows isn't good for stability any more. Windows isn't good for driver compatibility anymore. Windows isn't good for being easy to do your own thing. It's only good for gaming...

So: https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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newsoftheday wrote: post #117

When I have to use Windows for work (which I 100% would prefer over Mac when I can't have Linux Desktop), I've found OneDrive works best if you give it one file. I gzip a tar file on Windows and let OneDrive sync that. As long as it's only one file, it does a good job. Whatever you do, don't try to sync a git repo folder with OneDrive.

Just curious why you would consider syncing a repo already under git? (assuming it's sync'd to github/azure/gitlab etc)

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by tracker1 »

catapart wrote: post #149
JTbane wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would Syncthing fulfill your requirements?

I think it might! Definitely checks enough boxes for me to try out, anyway. The UI is a little cumbersome for me, personally, but it does seem at least straightforward enough for me to understand what the intentions are. ETA: Welp, that didn't last long. A service running in the background that exposes an "insecure" url for a browser to then open as the only means for GUI interaction with the app is not a great recom…

You could create an app that has a tray status icon, that launches a tauri app connected to the same web service (assuming it's only listening on localhost, it's fine).

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by tracker1 »

p0w3n3d wrote: post #43
ReptileMan wrote: post #25

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The main question is who is in control not whether it is off or online. Microsoft obviously thinks that users are not, and it is Microsoft. We should have been more careful with embracing the walled gardens.

Tbh I don't understand why 'Microsoft thinks that users are not' maybe because my kids are not logged in to onedrive yet. Do I understand correctly that MS tricks the users somehow to synchronize folders with cloud?

Kind of... you now have to sign into windows with a Microsoft Account, that has a starting (free) tier OneDrive, that will "easily" enable and start operations against directories you may not recognize are syncing, and even if disabled may change with automatic forced updates... it will then start nagging you to create a paid account for more storage, etc... otherwise tie you into Office products, where it starts saving to OneDrive by default, which you may not recognize and that doesn't even get into a lot of the dark patterns and manipulation.

FTR, I've used it and usually configure to explicitly only sync a single directory.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by fuzzfactor »

nubskr wrote: post #20

Helping my mom recover from OneDrive's "cleanup" was the closest I've come to negotiating with terrorists.

As time marches on, Onedrive has actively continued to blur the difference between local file storage vs storage in their cloud.

No doubt this has gotten more "seamless" in recent years than it was at first.

The exact definition of "deceptive trade practices".

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by benterix »

juancn wrote: post #33

Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.

For me it's Autocad. Although I heard people managed to run it to Linux and don't complain.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by tracker1 »

meetingthrower wrote: post #56

...and even if they suck it into onedrive, good luck finding it! Is it in my work onedrive, personal onedrive, a "teams" folder, or did they relabel it to a sharepoint folder? No idea! Everything is now saved on my downloads folder because my file system is so whacked with all these other virtual folder overlays....

Man, I wanted to like Teams folder mounts.. what a mess.

Aside: WTF isn't the Teams wiki using markdown files you can edit and sync locally? I mean if this has changed since I last tried, cool... but that's the single biggest thing I wanted from this. Now, I just put a _docs directory into my projects and have markdown files in there sync'd to the git repo... I've given up on files in teams for the most part.

Also with teams, splitting up chats and meating chats is a pain... the "activity" indicator doesn't tell you WTF subtab for chat something is in now. I used to at least halfway like teams if you avoided (over)using features, now it's just a craptastic mess.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by muwtyhg »

anonymousiam wrote: post #144
xboxnolifes wrote: post #120

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Battlefield, Call of Duty, Apex Legends, PUBG, Rainbow 6 Siege, Fortnite, Valorant, League of Legends, Teamfight Tactics, GTA5 online (and likely gta6 online). Personally, only TFT is a blocker for me, and you can get an inferior version working on linux, but it only takes you playing one of those games for it to be a blocker.

How many of these will not run under Wine/Crossover/Hangover? My guess is that most DRM'ed games won't work right, but they often don't work right under Windows either.

He listed those because they have kernel-level anti-cheat or DRM system that requires Windows/MacOS to run. You cannot WINE them.

> but they often don't work right under Windows either.

This is certainly untrue. Them working often is the entire reason why Windows is the "gaming OS".

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by tracker1 »

mijoharas wrote: post #95
recursivedoubts wrote: post #22

OneDrive is an absolute cancer. I teach Computer Science and my students are constantly accidentally checking their repos out onto onedrive which, of course, makes the performance absolutely atrocious to the point of unusability, and it often affects the weakest students who are most likely to get knocked out of CS by unrelated issues like this. The UI in Windows is intentionally designed to confuse the issue so peop…

> and you will be the best desktop/laptop OS within a few years. Arguably it's already the best desktop/laptop OS. Hopefully within a few years it can be the most popular desktop OS. Then again... maybe this year is the year of the linux desktop...

I am pretty sure we'll see Desktop Linux in the US cross the 10% mark this year... however, I don't think it will get much higher without first party sales support from OEMs. Most people don't change their OS and just use what came with it, which today is mostly Windows or MacOS.

I'd really love if some vendors would license Pop from System76 for more, broader hardware support. I think it's just about the best out of the box experience in Linux for most users.

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