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Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by christophilus »

librasteve wrote: post #100

I thought it would be interesting to try the showcase examples in Raku (since I am always saying how good Raku's imitation of Ruby is)... - https://glot.io/snippets/he42jpfm27 - https://glot.io/snippets/he42trx6w6 - https://glot.io/snippets/he434b6ryj Obviously Raku leans more to `{}` and `my $var` than Ruby - but otherwise I think it does a credible job. Obviously these are carefully chosen Ruby snippets to highlit…

Man. Haven’t thought about Raku for a while. Does it have a good web framework these days?

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by zaitsev1393 »

MyOutfitIsVague wrote: post #128
zaitsev1393 wrote: post #125

I don't get the people who complain about the website not working with disabled js. Maybe I miss something and a large part of users disable / have js disabled in their browsers for some reason? Why the target audience of the ruby, probably primary web developers, whould do that? Or is this a some kind of secret handshake so community accept you (to build a website that can work with no js)?

It's a common philosophy for developers with standards of robustness and accessibility to not hard depend on js for things that don't need js to function. > Why the target audience of the ruby, probably primary web developers, whould do that? In my experience, it's mostly web developers who care about this in the first place.

I can understand the aspiration to have the system that can be run from the lowest level out of box tools, but then, I am doing frontend for almost a decade and this is porbably the first time I'm seeing such attention to this specific 'no js' use case, as in this thread.

Maybe I'm not reading enough webdev forums. I agree though that things that don't required js should be written in no js way.

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by ecshafer »

rpdillon wrote: post #53
Hackbraten wrote: post #21

I wonder why Sandi Metz is missing in the testimonial section. One of the most influential persons in software analysis and design in the Rubyverse.

Had the same exact thought. That DHH was included and Sandy was not really surprised me.

DHH is the lead developer of the most popular ruby web framework, Sandy is the author of a mildly popular book. Not knocking her work, but DHH is magnitudes more influential.

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by omoikane »

I see that this coincides with Ruby 3.4.8 release[1]. I wonder we will get another Ruby release on 2025-12-25, since Ruby has made a Christmas day release for 13 consecutive years[2].

[1] https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2025/12/17/ruby-3-4-8-rele...

[2] https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/releases/

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by self_awareness »

lelandfe wrote: post #52
Alifatisk wrote: post #43

I like the new design, however, I strongly believe the website could've been optimized further and used much less JS. Opening the website with JS turned off makes the code examples not load and the front page freezes as "0%" loading. What does it do exactly? It just fetches[1] to another part of site and retrieves static text[2] to be displayed. This part could've been kept as part of the html, no need for this artif…

> used much less JS The homepage loads 9.7kB of JS. Navigating to every single link in the main nav results in no additional JS being loaded. The site is fine.

Home pages: Ruby 4.3mb, Python 1.3mb, java.com 2.1mb, raku.org 360kb, typescript 2.1mb

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by periodjet »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #150
tovej wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

So using a term as an ethnonym for historically British ethnic people is racist? If so, is it racist to assert or assume that ethnic Europeans exist?

Social justice fundamentalism asserts that there are favored (“oppressed”) groups, and disfavored (“oppressor”) groups.

True believers have created a largely arbitrary grouping called “white people”, assigning it the “oppressor” label.

If a favored group’s nation were flooded by “white people”, that would be seen as an emergent situation requiring remedy; the opposite is what we’re seeing play out in societies like Britain, and is Not a Problem. I’m committing an act of violence by even describing it in this way.

How or when a disfavored group is restored to neutral or favored status is undefined; one would presumably have to consult a head priest of the movement for an answer (and I wouldn’t expect any coherence or clarity).

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by lelandfe »

self_awareness wrote: post #155
lelandfe wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> used much less JS The homepage loads 9.7kB of JS. Navigating to every single link in the main nav results in no additional JS being loaded. The site is fine.

Home pages: Ruby 4.3mb, Python 1.3mb, java.com 2.1mb, raku.org 360kb, typescript 2.1mb

Yeah but them's highway miles. I have much less care about a site loading images than the stuff that makes the mobile nav work. Images are pretty!

For instance, here's Python's 144kB JS-powered homepage mid-load: https://imgur.com/a/OvYVAMS

And theirs doesn't even have any pretty images! That said, Ruby really ought to give those images a compress.

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by weaksauce »

omoikane wrote: post #154

I see that this coincides with Ruby 3.4.8 release[1]. I wonder we will get another Ruby release on 2025-12-25, since Ruby has made a Christmas day release for 13 consecutive years[2]. [1] https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2025/12/17/ruby-3-4-8-rele... [2] https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/releases/

yeah it will be ruby 4.0

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by andrei_says_ »

scruple wrote: post #123
kshahkshah wrote: post #61

I used cursor over the past three weeks to update a 12 year-old Ruby on rails project. While it has been slightly updated throughout the years, this was my first proper modernization of the code base. It’s been a real pleasure getting back into Ruby after so many years in typescript, python, and rust. Happy to see the update. Real shame about the haters here, the Ruby community is a supportive and positive bunch that…

I spent ~16 years with Ruby (as a non-primary language for the first 5 years, but then as my primary for the remainder), from ~2006/2007 til 2022/2023. I had a couple of hours free to spin up new personal project this morning. At first I was going to default to Python since I use it heavily at work. On a whim, I decided to see what Ruby 3.4 has to offer since it's been a few years. I am very happy with that decision.…

Ruby is still a joy for me, too, and Rails continues to evolve while providing solid best practices as the default.

A side effect is an increased intolerance to agony, boilerplate verbosity, complexity. I look at the JavaScript world and shudder.

Also, Ruby being as expressive as it is, describing things to an LLM is not really a timesaver over writing the code myself.

Re: Ruby website redesigned

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Post by adsteel_ »

It looks great, but it's missing the one thing I want most in the site - the ability to select the version of the language documentation in some way other than editing the URL directly. I use ruby-lang almost exclusively for the documentation.

I also wish the documentation search parameter were saved in the URL. This would allow people to create a custom Chrome search engine like @ruby and dramatically speed up doc searching.

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