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Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

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Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

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> Programmers resistance to AI assisted programming has lowered considerably. Even if LLMs make mistakes, the ability of LLMs to deliver useful code and hints improved to the point most skeptics started to use LLMs anyway: now the return on the investment is acceptable for many more folks. I'm not a fan of this phrasing. Use of the terms "resistance" and "skeptics" implies they were wrong. It's important we don't eng…

There is some limited truth in this but we still see claims that LLMs are "just next token predictors" and "just regurgitate code they read online". These are just uninformed and wrong views. It's fair to say that these people were (are!) wrong.

> we still see claims that LLMs are "just next token predictors" and "just regurgitate code they read online". These are just uninformed and wrong views. It's fair to say that these people were (are!) wrong.

I don't think it's fair to say that at all. How are LLMs not statistical models that predict tokens? It's a big oversimplification but it doesn't seem wrong, the same way that "computers are electricity running through circuits" isn't a wrong statement. And in both cases, those statements are orthogonal to how useful they are.

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

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Where to understand more about how chain of thoughs really affects LLMs performance? I read the seminal paper but all it says is that it's basically another prompt engineering tecnique that improves accuracy.

Chain of thought, now including "reasoning", are basically a work around for the simplistic nature of the Transformer neural network architecture that all LLMs are based on.

The two main limitations of the Transformer that it helps with are:

1) A Transformer is just a fixed-size stack of layers, with a one-way flow of data through the layers from input to output. The fixed number of layers equates to how many "thought" steps the LLM can put into generating each word of output, but good responses to harder questions may require many more steps and iterative thinking...

The idea of "think step by step", aka chain of thought, is to have the model break it's response down into a sequence of steps, each building on what came before, so that the scope of each step is withing the capability of the fixed number of layers of the transformer.

2) A Transformer has extremely limited internal memory from one generated word to the next, so telling the model to go one step at a time, feeding its own output back in as input, in effect makes the model's output a kind of memory that makes up for this.

So, chain of thought prompting ultimately give the model more thinking steps (more words generated), together with memory of what it is thinking, in order to be able to generate a better response.

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

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I'm impressed that such a short post can be so categorically incorrect.

> For years, despite functional evidence and scientific hints accumulating, certain AI researchers continued to claim LLMs were stochastic parrots

> In 2025 finally almost everybody stopped saying so.

There is still no evidence that LLMs are anything beyond "stochastic parrots". There is no proof of any "understanding". This is seeing faces in clouds.

> I believe improvements to RL applied to LLMs will be the next big thing in AI.

With what proof or evidence? Gut feeling?

> Programmers resistance to AI assisted programming has lowered considerably.

Evidence is the opposite, most developers do not trust it. https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/ai#2-accuracy-of-ai-too...

> It is likely that AGI can be reached independently with many radically different architectures.

There continues to be no evidence beyond "hope" that AGI is even possible, yet alone that Transformer models are the path there.

> The fundamental challenge in AI for the next 20 years is avoiding extinction.

Again, nothing more than a gut feeling. Much like all the other AI hype posts this is nothing more than "well LLMs sure are impressive, people say they're not, but I think they're wrong and we will make a machine god any day now".

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

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> 1. NOT have any representation about the meaning of the prompt. This one is bizarre, if true (I'm not convinced it is). The entire purpose of the attention mechanism in the transformer architecture is to build this representation, in many layers (conceptually: in many layers of abstraction ). > 2. NOT have any representation about what they were going to say. The only place for this to go is in the model weights. M…

> This one is bizarre, if true (I'm not convinced it is).

> The entire purpose of the attention mechanism in the transformer architecture is to build this representation, in many layers (conceptually: in many layers of abstraction).

I think this is really about a hidden (i.e. not readily communicated) difference in what the word "meaning" means to different people.

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

#157
post #127

LLMs have certainly become extremely useful for Software Engineers, they're very convincing (and pleasers, too) and I'm still unsure about the future of our day-to-day job. But one thing that has scared me the most, is the trust of LLMs output to the general society. I believe that for software engineers it's really easy to see if it's being useful or not -- We can just run the code and see if the output is what we e…

> using AI to ask for medical advice

So the number of anti-vaxxers is going to plummet drastically in the following decade, I guess.

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

#158
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Skeptics" is also a loaded term; what does it actually mean? I find LLMs incredibly useful for various programming tasks (generating code, searching documentation, and yes with enough setup agents can accomplish some tasks), but I also don't believe they have actual intelligence, nor do I think they will eviscerate programming jobs, the same way that Python and JavaScript didn't eviscerate programming jobs despite l…

No, that doesn’t make you a skeptic in this context. The LLM skeptics claim LLM usefulness is an illusion. That the LLMs are a fad, and they produced more problems than they solve. They cite cherry picked announcements showing that LLM usage makes development slower or worse. They opened ChatGPT a couple times a few months ago, asked some questions, and then went “Aha! I knew it was bad!” when they encountered their…

Skeptic here: I do think LLMs are a fad for software development. They're an interesting phenomen that people have convinced themselves MUST BE USEFUL in the context of software development, either through ignorance or a sense of desperation. I do not believe LLMs will be used long term for any kind of serious software development use cases, as the maintenance cost of the code they produce will run development teams into bankruptcy.

I also believe the current generations of LLMs (transformers) are technical dead ends on the path to real AGI, and the more time we spend hyping them, the less research/money gets spent on discovering new/better paths beyond transformers.

I wish we could go back to complaining about Kubernetes, focusing on scaling distributed systems, and solving more interesting problems that comparing winnings on a stochastic slot machine. I wish our industry was held to higher standards than jockeying bug-ridden MVP code as quickly as possible.

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get this take, but given the state of the world (the US anyways), I find it hard to trust anyone with any kind of profit motive. I feel like any information can’t be taken as fact, it can just be rolled into your world view and discarded if useful or not. If you need to make a decision that can’t be backed out of that has real world consequences I think/hope most people are learning to do as much due diligence as r…

I feel like any information can’t be taken as fact, it can just be rolled into your world view and discarded if useful or not. The concern, I think, is that for many that “discard function” is not, “Is this information useful?”. Instead: “Does this information reinforce my existing world view?” That feedback loop and where it leads is potentially catastrophic at societal scale.

This was happening well before LLMs, though. If anything, I have hope that LLMs might break some people out of their echo chambers if they ask things like "do vaccines cause autism?"

Re: Reflections on AI at the End of 2025

#160
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Skeptics" is also a loaded term; what does it actually mean? I find LLMs incredibly useful for various programming tasks (generating code, searching documentation, and yes with enough setup agents can accomplish some tasks), but I also don't believe they have actual intelligence, nor do I think they will eviscerate programming jobs, the same way that Python and JavaScript didn't eviscerate programming jobs despite l…

No, that doesn’t make you a skeptic in this context. The LLM skeptics claim LLM usefulness is an illusion. That the LLMs are a fad, and they produced more problems than they solve. They cite cherry picked announcements showing that LLM usage makes development slower or worse. They opened ChatGPT a couple times a few months ago, asked some questions, and then went “Aha! I knew it was bad!” when they encountered their…

> They cite cherry picked announcements showing that LLM usage makes development slower or worse. They opened ChatGPT a couple times a few months ago, asked some questions, and then went “Aha! I knew it was bad!” when they encountered their first bad output instead of trying to work with the LLM to iterate like everyone who gets value out of them.

"Ah-hah you stopped when this tool blew your whole leg off. If you'd stuck with it like the rest of us you could learn to only take off a few toes every now and again, but I'm confident that in time it will hardly ever do that."

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