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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Huge shame. I have an LG running WebOS that I bought in 2012 and is still going strong and receiving updates (well, it received one last year, but not this one).

I was always impressed with how unshittified it was, and knew that when I got another TV it would be a WebOS LG.

Now this :(

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post #139

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> My rule for modern TVs: > 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. A sensible rule, indeed. Next level of dystopia: cellular modems becoming so cheap that every TV, fridge and washing machine comes with one that connects it to the Internet whether you like it or not. And then when we Faraday cage those, the device refuses to function. Laws need to…

> Next level of dystopia: cellular modems becoming so cheap that every TV, fridge and washing machine comes with one that connects it to the Internet whether you like it or not. That's already a reality with cars in Europe.

Just to be clear to anyone reading - those SIMs have one purpose only - to automatically call emergency services if you crash.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Next level of dystopia: cellular modems becoming so cheap that every TV, fridge and washing machine comes with one that connects it to the Internet whether you like it or not. That's already a reality with cars in Europe.

Just to be clear to anyone reading - those SIMs have one purpose only - to automatically call emergency services if you crash.

For now...?

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My LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue…

> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or…

> possibly selling that data with third parties.

Nope. According to the privacy policy

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OG Chromecast is specifically being phased out because it doesn't offer the same level of control as the current crop of "smart" TVs/devices.

I image they will be much sought-after, unless you are suggesting they are being bricked

Even if they don't brick them explicitly they will no longer provide security updates for them.

I'm on the same boat, smart TV has never been online, all content is just cast from media server/phone/tablet straight to chromecast. It works, no fuss, glitch free, and of course they will kill it.

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My rule for modern TVs: 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. 2. Use an Apple TV for the "smart" features. 3. Avoid Fire TV, Chromecast, or Roku. The logic is simple, Google (Chromecast) and Amazon (Fire TV) operate on the same business model as the TV manufacturers subsidized hardware in exchange for user data and ad inventory. Apple is the only…

> My rule for modern TVs: > 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. A sensible rule, indeed. Next level of dystopia: cellular modems becoming so cheap that every TV, fridge and washing machine comes with one that connects it to the Internet whether you like it or not. And then when we Faraday cage those, the device refuses to function. Laws need to…

The EU actually mandated that cars have a modem ("eCall"), so they could self-report accidents. I think this has been under reported even in tech circles.

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> Additionally, LG has a setting called "Live Plus" that Reddit users highlighted. When it's turned on, the TV can recognize what's displayed on screen and use that viewing information for personalized recommendations and ads. LG describes it as an "enhanced viewing experience," Ah. So it's not "AI." It's an "opportunity to spy on every single thing you do."

Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.

At least since 2010. Turned off as soon as I bought mine.

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My rule for modern TVs: 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. 2. Use an Apple TV for the "smart" features. 3. Avoid Fire TV, Chromecast, or Roku. The logic is simple, Google (Chromecast) and Amazon (Fire TV) operate on the same business model as the TV manufacturers subsidized hardware in exchange for user data and ad inventory. Apple is the only…

What do you think of Nvidia Shield? I haven't tried it, but I think it should also belong to 2). It's clearly much more expensive than a FireTV, but as you say it shouldn't be subsidized by ads. As an Android device it should be more open than an Apple TV. While I recognize the near flawless UI and high hardware quality of most Apple devices, I disagree with their "golden cage" or walled garden approach.

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For similar reasons many years back when I broke the bank for a G2, I decided to disconnect it forever. Besides the always-on spyware, every update broke something, which is incredibly frustrating considering the amount I spent. For instance, I got a GX soundbar for free with the TV which worked fine for 1–2 months until some update borked it and made it glitch out randomly. To date, none of their updates seem to hav…

While I've left my now fairly old TV on the internet, I use optical (TOSLINK) out to a cheap class D amplifier, which seems to have been a more reliable system than any of the HDMI audio based ones.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Next level of dystopia: cellular modems becoming so cheap that every TV, fridge and washing machine comes with one that connects it to the Internet whether you like it or not. That's already a reality with cars in Europe.

Just to be clear to anyone reading - those SIMs have one purpose only - to automatically call emergency services if you crash.

It’s naive to think that this is a) the only current use

Almost everything ever introduced with good intentions gets perverted into something else

Traffic cameras, facial recognition, phone GPS, social media - all can and are used against you in one way shape or form

I’m not saying we shouldn’t have any of those things - I’m saying just open your eyes because e sims are no different

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