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Post by jwr »

afavour wrote: post #103
jwr wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible. They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

I disagree, I think the new layout and the app are bad for Reddit power users. But for someone brand new to Reddit today they work fine. And that’s the point. They care about boosting their user base, not satisfying power users.

Let's take an example: if there are several images, you click on the "next" button (keys do not work!) several times, and if you are not careful, the last click gets you a full-screen image, because the button has disappeared and clicking in the same place now magnifies the image.

How is that "fine".

In the mobile app, even swiping from the left edge to go back doesn't work reliably.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by baby_souffle »

anonymousiam wrote: post #135
baby_souffle wrote: post #8

If supported, rooting is easy. https://cani.rootmy.tv/

Does this link now work for LG TVs again? I rooted mine about four years go, so no annoying AI firmware updates, but I remember there was an update to the LG webOS that prevented the exploit that allowed rootmy.tv to work. If rootmy.tv is working again for modern LG TVs, I'll run out and buy another one.

Site shows known exploits and known vulnerable versions based on model. I don’t think there’s an exploit for anything new in box… and even if there was, it would be treated like an 0day and LG would patch. Your best bet would be to subscribe to some notification for a new film and go out and buy a new LG that week.

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Post by jitl »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #127
amelius wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We really need laws against products that are still tied to the vendor after you buy them. If a product needs to be tied to the vendor, it is a service and it should not be sold as a product.

The problem is that every business seems to be run by fuckheads who would respond to this by changing their business model to "Televisions as a Service" Every TV would become a rental instead of a product you can buy Maybe I'm cynical, but I don't see any way to be optimistic anymore. Every company now seems to behave like landlords instead of producers

It’s not just TVs, General Motors wants to be a “service” too removing connectivity like CarPlay/Android auto to force you to use a car App Store, and BMW with their subscription heated seats. Recurring revenue at all costs!!

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Post by jitl »

wdr1 wrote: post #145
jitl wrote: post #29

We need a Framework-style company making TVs. Get the OLED panels from whoever makes them wholesale, spend on a beautiful enclosure / design, add just enough software to calibrate the image and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC. Sell a premium soundbar as an add-on instead of including speakers in the base device. I think a brand like Sonos could make a killing in this market selling a premium dumb tv to high…

Can't you already just get an HDMI monitor, speakers & a raspberry pi?

if you know a vendor making great 55”-75” OLED 160hz+ 4K monitors let me know!

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Post by jitl »

varispeed wrote: post #108
jitl wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I’m not sure if you can regulate having good design and user experience. Certainly the ability to roll back updates and enforcing privacy though.

It is simple. Let user remove any unwanted software and don't install anything new (as in new apps), without user consent.

the “software” is a single unit, the whole TV OS. I don’t think any vendor considers the homescreen of the OS a removable app besides perhaps Android. Certainly not Samsung lol.

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Post by jitl »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #136
amelius wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but if it is "TVs as a service" then it completely changes the game. We can force them to replace the TV when it dies. Or make them take the TV back when we stop the service. Repairability would be their problem, not ours. This could arguably be a win for the environment. Of course, many people would still want to own their products, so that would be a market opportunity then.

Only on this fucking website would I say something as full of shit as "TV as a service" and find some asshole thinking it sounds like a great idea I give up. Go fuck yourselves Hacker News I'm done with this anti-human hellhole

it’s one person don’t have a conniption

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Post by beaugunderson »

jwr wrote: post #46

As a reminder, turn off the "Live Plus" thing on your LG TV. This "option" makes your LG TV spy on you, tracking and reporting what you watch based on the image that is shown on the TV. You need to go to Settings -> All Settings -> General -> System -> Additional Settings to make sure the "Live Plus" option is OFF. Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates. The enshittification o…

Thanks for the menu tree, just turned it off on our LG G5 (the flagship model) where it had defaulted to on. Gross.

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Post by esperent »

rcarmo wrote: post #126
caxco93 wrote: post #42

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actually, when you share a reddit link, HN automatically converts it to old.reddit

And yet we cannot have dark mode, which would be a simple CSS tweak. But I’m thankful for the other little things.

The various "dark mode" browser extensions work well here. Brave on Android also has a dark mode toggle built in, which I assume repackages one of the extensions.

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Post by morkalork »

Boxxed wrote: post #22

I wonder how this went down. "Hey LG, this is the Microsofts. Just had an idea how we could give your entire customer base the middle finger, wanna hear it?"

LG must have had some real FOMO watching Samsung piss on all over their fridge customers?
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