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This is rather weird. Mortality in immediate connection with the vaccine (index time) would not have been captured here. I would hesitate to draw any conclusion from this paper. > For all individuals, vaccinated or not, follow-up time zero began 6 months after the index date.
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1 out of 100 when billions are getting it is gonna be a large number. Mortality rate has gone down substantially since the vaccines.
I like to ask people who talk about a 1% mortality rate if they'd go to a football game in a stadium with 100k seats if 1k of those seats randomly had a small bomb attached.
Look at this article and point out any wording that seems meant to push a certain viewpoint. Note anything important the author leaves out, downplays, or overstates, including numbers that seem cherry-picked or lack context. Clearly separate basic facts from opinions or emotional language. Explain how people with different viewpoints might read the article differently. Also call out any common persuasion tactics like loaded wording, selective quotes, or appeals to authority.
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Personally, I am glad to see it. I definitely got vaccinated as soon as I could, but I was also still nervous as there did seem to be some level of reasonable doubt. I would be happy to see more studies confirm what many consider to be obvious.
It's not obvious at all. Many vaccine candidates about previous covirus were rejected because they didn't pass the safetly trial. The "secret" part is that before aproving the vaccine, it has to pass a few trials to prove it's effective and safe. This is discussed too few times.
In case this comment has you temporarily hallucinate like it did me, I just looked and was able to confirm what I remembered: the vaccines did undergo trials for efficacy and safety before being approved.
Unfortunately, I don't think any additional evidence will convince vaccine skeptics of the safety of mRNA vaccines
"Skeptics" is a very kind term for these people. I bet my life if you polled these people, they have not read any material on the matter.
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Are they lying about the deaths? I'm not following.
VAERS cannot be used to establish causality; it cannot correctly be used in the way in which they are purporting to use it[1]. 1 = https://www.kff.org/quick-take/fda-memo-linking-covid-vaccin...
Here, FDA career scientists conducted that follow-up: they reviewed 96 child death reports and concluded at least 10 were caused by COVID vaccine myocarditis. That expert finding, not politics, is what triggered the stricter protocols. Healthy skepticism means demanding the full data for review, not preemptively calling it invalid.
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No not really, since there are other studies that answer the question of vaccine safety and effectiveness in the more emergency scenario of Spoiler: They were also extremely safe and extremely effective then, too. You can see it unambiguously in county-level excess mortality metrics split by political affiliation in the US. The anti-science right wing political sphere gave us a natural experiment that produced very c…
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Unfortunately, this is an observational study and when you get to the confounding part, they kind of shrug their shoulders and say “well, we included a bunch of covariates that should reduce make the bias go away”, but there’s no causal diagram so we have no idea how they reasoned about this. If you’ve read even something layman friendly like Pearl’s Book of Why you should be feeling nervous about this.
Are there really antivax people that would know the word "covariate?" That's gotta be a small Venn diagram overlap.
They just don't use them correctly and/or appropriately.
Unfortunately, I don't think any additional evidence will convince vaccine skeptics of the safety of mRNA vaccines
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Do people really believe that the Covid vaccines effectively give people sickle cell?
Less snarky -- it has been known for quite some time that infections such as the flu can trigger cardio conditions such as myocarditis. Knowing that, it is unsurprising that people exposed to Covid (vaccinated or not, since a vaccine is never 100% effective) would show similar outcomes.