There are too many of that recently. Cloudflare is starting to look amateurish. Can't they test their stuff properly before deploying it to production?
Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down
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#152https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.... reports that https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com/ is down, guessing downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector runs via cloudflare!
It's downdetectors all the way down
The open question is if there is a sufficient number of down detectors where the system becomes turing complete
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you implying by linking to that article?
In the chain of events that led to Cloudflare's largest ever outage, code they'd rewritten from C to Rust was significant factor. There are, of course, other factors that meant the Rust-based problem was not mitigated. They expected a maximum config size but an upstream error meant it was much larger than normal. Their Rust code parsed a fraction of the config, then did ".unwrap()" and panicked, crashing the entire p…
This is generally BS apologetics for C. If that was in C this would have just been overrunning the statically allocated memory amount and would have resulted in a segfault.
Rust did its job and forced them to return an error from the lower function. They explicitly called a function to crash if that returned an error.
That’s not a rust problem.
Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is "high latency" nowadays? If people wouldn't bundle 30mb into every html page it wouldn't be needed. Also cloudflare is needed due to DDOS and abuse from rogue actors, which are mostly located in specific areas. Residential IP ranges in democratic countries are not causing the issues.
Aren't botnet targeting cheap and unsecured consumer devices specifically in the residential IP ranges ?
Of course they are, but these botnets are actively combated by the ISPs.
The main bad traffic that I receive comes from server IP ranges all over the world and several rogue countries who think it makes sense to wage hybrid war against us. But residential IP ranges are not the majority of bad traffic.
I would even say that residential IP ranges are most of the paying customers for companies, and if you just block everything else you most likely wouldn't need to use cloudflare.
Unfortunately firewall technology is not there yet. It's quite hard to block entire countries, even harder to block any non-residential ASN. And then you can still add some open source "i am human" captcha solution before you need to use cloudflare.
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#155Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down
#156Already being discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46158191
If that was a better discussion, it would be at the top.
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#157Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down
#158Edinburgh Airport is also down, suspending all flights after an "IT issue with our air traffic control provider". Not sure if this is coincidental, but the timing is rather suspicious!
That's odd. Why would you want to rely on Cloudflare for airport stuffs?
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Knowledge + tech skills are not the only factor that lead to subpar outcomes with these scenarios. In my experience the thing that causes the most problems with H1Bs is the weak English and related communication issues.
In my experience, the communication problems stem from the Americans who expect perfect English from all others. English is spoken across the entire business world between people for whom it is not their first language. The accents and broken English is epic in many organizations. Yet they work through it and get things done together. If you work harder at taking the burden upon yourself to understand others, you mig…
I have the same experience as you. I have been working with many non-native English speakers from different countries, and Americans (and to some degree Brits) are usually the ones who can't follow what is said. This improves over time as they get used to different accents, but it seems it is easier for non-native speakers to understand foreign accents than native speakers in general.
I'm not saying I always understand 100% of what is said. When someone with an accent from a specific part of a country speaks super fast and is on a poor line with lots of street traffic in the background, it can be hard to follow. But usually I catch enough of it to be able to communicate.
Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down
#160How are these clowns deploying stuff on a Friday, it is unbelievable to me. It is not even funny any more. It seems cloudflare is held together by marketing only. They should stop all of these stupid initiatives and keep their stack simple. And I'm 100% sure the management responsible for this is already fueling up the ferraris to drive to their beach house. All of us make them rich and they keep on enshittifying the…
> How are these clowns deploying stuff on a Friday, it is unbelievable to me I have stopped fighting this battle at work (not Cloudflare). Despite Friday being one of the most important days of the week for our customers, people still deploy the latest commit 10 minutes before they leave in the afternoon. Going on a weekend trip home to your family? No problem, just deploy and be offline for hours while you are trave…
Yes. Especially they do the full checklist:
- Friday
- Christmas time
- Affecting both shopify.com and claude.ai, so no phased deployment
- Takes 30 minutes to remediate
If they would've just deployed to a single of their high-value customers at once, they could've spared shopify.com an hour of downtime and maybe millions in abandoned shopping carts.