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Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by dotancohen »

account42 wrote: post #112
dotancohen wrote: post #60

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> The state needs to make some changes to how content is licensed to prevent monopoly. Why? Nobody _needs_ Mickey Mouse. If the price for Mickey Mouse is too high, just don't buy it. Now you could argue that some (much) older works are part of culture, and being exposed to that culture is necessary to function in society. But that then becomes an issue of how long copyright is necessary or reasonable. New works most…

You got this the wrong way around: If no one needs Mickey Mouse then why should we so severely restrict everyone's speech to encourage its creation.

I agree completely. I address that in the mention of culture.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by 867-5309 »

mlrtime wrote: post #108
867-5309 wrote: post #46

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RD started honouring DMCA around a year ago and I jumped ship to Premiumize. have RD since reverted their stance?

Does Premiumize have a fuse mount driver and something like the debrid manager page?

not sure, never used it

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by account42 »

philipallstar wrote: post #116
account42 wrote: post #113

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They only have that right because society has deemed it beneficial for everyone to give them that right. If it is no longer beneficial overall then they should no longer have that right.

If you want to abolish private property in the name of watching things on Netflix then that's your choice, of course. Unless we see the horror that lack of private property rights has visited on people over the centuries and deem your right to believe things to no longer be beneficial overall.

Private property does not depend on copyright so your are arguing a strawman.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by philipallstar »

rusk wrote: post #130
philipallstar wrote: post #90

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I don't think you can have a monopoly on stuff you own. That's like saying I have a monopoly on my own house.

Ha. Guess you’ve not much grasp on how competition law works huh

I'm glad one of us explained our perspective, at least.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by throw0101c »

dotancohen wrote: post #150
throw0101c wrote: post #121

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> That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate.

> Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate. So if I as an artist paint a painting, I could not sell it in my small personal gallery by the beach? That is ridiculous.

> So if I as an artist paint a painting, I could not sell it in my small personal gallery by the beach? That is ridiculous.

It is so ridiculous that it is how movies were made and distributed in the US for decades:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pic....

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_system#The_end_of_the_s...

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by rusk »

philipallstar wrote: post #154
rusk wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha. Guess you’ve not much grasp on how competition law works huh

I'm glad one of us explained our perspective, at least.

That’s what I come here for. To have stupid people who haven’t read up on their topic explain their perspective to me.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by b112 »

dotancohen wrote: post #150
throw0101c wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate.

> Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate. So if I as an artist paint a painting, I could not sell it in my small personal gallery by the beach? That is ridiculous.

Everything like this has been worked out, handled, discussed, passed into laws, challenged by courts, all of it.

Typically, the size of the entity has some bearing on things. There are hundreds of pieces of legislation, which only affect companies (for example), with 50+ employees. Whatever complaint you have, or edge case you mention, it can be handled.

We are obviously discussing Disney here. So when people discuss Disney, and large-corp distribution, suddenly running in and applying the logic to a single person, is what is ridiculous.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by hulitu »

dotancohen wrote: post #60
chii wrote: post #17

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> how they ruined the opportunity presented netflix didn't really ruin it themselves (at least, not completely) - the owner of the licensed content did, by wanting a bigger cut of the pie. Disney, for example, didn't feel they're paid enough, and so stopped licensing the content out to netflix and instead created a competing service. I think this is a regulatory issue, because each piece of content is an effective is…

> The state needs to make some changes to how content is licensed to prevent monopoly. Why? Nobody _needs_ Mickey Mouse. If the price for Mickey Mouse is too high, just don't buy it. Now you could argue that some (much) older works are part of culture, and being exposed to that culture is necessary to function in society. But that then becomes an issue of how long copyright is necessary or reasonable. New works most…

> Now you could argue that some (much) older works are part of culture, and being exposed to that culture is necessary to function in society

No. When people start using their brains, they become a danger for society. That's why their brain shall have access only to strictly necessary things like cheap violence and cheap emotions. /s

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Post by jraby3 »

plufz wrote: post #39
jraby3 wrote: post #6

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YouTube music is really good. I prefer it more than Spotify and if you already pay for YouTube it's free for you.

Interesting! In which ways is it better than spotify?

YouTube does a really good job at making playlists on the fly. Choosing the first song on YouTube will get you a playlist of somewhat similar songs. It took me a while to get used to relative to Spotify but now I much prefer the YT method.
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