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Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by wartywhoa23 »

pacifika wrote: post #149
wartywhoa23 wrote: post #127

I've been using Ubuntu for 3 years now, and now that I'm about to upgrade my 13 y.o. laptop, there's a dilemma for me between choosing some top(ish)-spec x86_64 laptop or macbook pro M4. The former just keeps me going with Ubuntu, but forces to still dual-boot Windows for some creative software I use that Ubuntu lacks (a certain DAW and a CAD modeller). The latter gives me an awesome (or so it seems) OS that is much…

With Tahoe Apple lost me as a customer with their greatest USP: great UX. now it’s no longer any better than the best of Linux, where there is no one monopolist steering the ecosystem. So I’d go with Ubuntu.

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by ggm »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #122
ac29 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zorin OS' main pitch is the design work they put into it to make it look like Windows or macOS. As far as I can tell they wrote zero new software (the taskbar is a forked GNOME extension, and the Zorin Connect app is a forked KDE Connect). So, its not surprising they made an effort to make a nice looking webpage, design work is basically the only thing they are doing.

They could get less effort it's they simple use KDE and configure it to mimic Windows or OSX. It isn't necessary to hack Gnome.

They could get more outcome FOR less effort, and that begs a question: is there not a KDE (or Gnome) configuration which explicitly aims to be Windows-10/11 friendly in terms of placement and behaviour of decor and standard CTRL- bindings?

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by Narishma »

chneu wrote: post #123
Someone1234 wrote: post #60

I've been a Windows user since 3.1; and I've even defended Microsoft in the past (particularly when they made unpopular choices, but for technically correct reasons, like UAC or forcing vendors to rewrite their drivers into userland or using a safer driver model). BUT, I won't defend Windows 11 and Microsoft's general direction. I feel like there has been a slow cultural shift within Microsoft, from a core of fantast…

Win11 is mostly written by AI now and it's pretty obvious.

They've been on this road since at least Windows 8, long before AI.

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by philistine »

SSLy wrote: post #136
Someone1234 wrote: post #60

I've been a Windows user since 3.1; and I've even defended Microsoft in the past (particularly when they made unpopular choices, but for technically correct reasons, like UAC or forcing vendors to rewrite their drivers into userland or using a safer driver model). BUT, I won't defend Windows 11 and Microsoft's general direction. I feel like there has been a slow cultural shift within Microsoft, from a core of fantast…

Mac users with longer tenure are also complaining the rot is also creeping through MacOS, especially with Tahoe.

Rumors just came out that next year's release is AI features and bug fixes only. If true, this is great news for the health of their platforms.

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by mathnode »

jackvalentine wrote: post #73

I’m looking for a replacement OS for my mother in law whose computer is aging out of Windows 10 support. I’m glad to see slick distributions like this trying to fill that gap. That said her requirements are _so_ simple that Debian with Chromium would probably satisfy 100% of her requirements which are ‘download documents from gmail and print them’.

A chromebook or an ipad with a keyboard. Don’t over complicate it for her or anyone else. Give them something that makes what they know even easier, and also open up new avenues without having to learn a lot.

Ubuntu if it’s just an os replacement. She doesn’t know or care what debian or chromium is.

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by ddtaylor »

indigodaddy wrote: post #121
ddtaylor wrote: post #101

I have a long history with ZorinOS, and I will make it very short. They are grifters. The simple fact is that they release open source software, much of which is licensed as GPL. They modify these programs from time to time to be compatible with ZorinOS, etc. They refuse to release any of their sources sometimes, and when they do, they put takedowns and ban people from their community because they believe their paid-…

A bit odd that you say long history with Zorin but you imply that there is some connection to "Chinese community," when in fact Zorin Group is an Irish company? I have no skin in this game and never had any desire to use Zorin but I was able to look that up in about two seconds plus their website contact info says Ireland.

I'm not claiming that any specific companies are registered in China or operate from China. It's possible that because many Chinese users are using Zorin this is why their community has taken a different stance on free/open software licensing.

EDIT: Either way, my main point is that Zorin is responsible for how they redistribute the source code and other modifications to the software they sell. They refuse to do that sometimes, and they gaslight their community / the open source community.

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by makeitdouble »

Someone1234 wrote: post #60

I've been a Windows user since 3.1; and I've even defended Microsoft in the past (particularly when they made unpopular choices, but for technically correct reasons, like UAC or forcing vendors to rewrite their drivers into userland or using a safer driver model). BUT, I won't defend Windows 11 and Microsoft's general direction. I feel like there has been a slow cultural shift within Microsoft, from a core of fantast…

> from a core of fantastic engineers surrounding by marketing/sales, to the org's direction being set by marketing/sales UX be damned.

> MacOS

I think macos is on the same path.

Apple refined the MacBook formula to a perfection and the hardware division made the best of it. But outside of the processor, what is the last significant leap forward that involved brilliant engineers that you can think of ?

One could argue that nothing should change, but that's a lot of missed opportunies (I personally wanted a response to the Surface Pro, and figured out it won't come anytime soon) and we also know that's not how it goes. If there's no significant progress there will be change for the sake of change (coughLiquid Glasscough)

Re: 1M Downloads of Zorin OS 18

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Post by tscherno »

ReptileMan wrote: post #142
MangoCoffee wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft's products have always been just good/cheap enough to gain enough market share to squeeze out others

Excel and Visual Studio, .NET Runtime and C#, Windows 2000 were among the best things for their time. I think there were like 2-3 months in which even internet explorer was the best browser on the market

My operating system teacher was a hardcore Linux zealot and "M$" hater. But one day he praised Microsoft for Active Directory and group policies. Comparable, well integrated easy to use solutions didn't exist at the time. (mid 2000s). Batch scripts were lame though...
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