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Dark Mode Sucks

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#151
post #12

I kind of wish white showed up as that manila bookish paper color. I think my eyes read that better than white. But I dont mind dark mode either. I wouldn't never say its mandatory though

Yes! I use "Dark Background and Light Text" addon for firefox, where you can set the colors yourself, which I did. I use #FFF2cc (I'd like to call it sandy) as my background color for nearly every website (even HN). (+permanent night mode, +blue light glasses that are orange-tinted, so your mileage may vary)

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#152
post #135

Without taking an extreme or absolutist stance on this issue, I generally agree with the author here. Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. The eyes are adapted to see daylight levels of light during daytime. If your ambient lighting and screen don't match this, then you're not using your body in the way it's evolved to function. What we need more of are screens with anti-glare and a wide…

I have older eyes. I'm sure someday in the next few years I will have cataract surgery. Light mode is lower contrast for me, and is more difficult to read text, especially at the end of the day. Dark mode is a relief, and much easier to read for me. I miss it in the situations when it is not available, like PDFs with small grey text on a white background, more so on a small screen like a phone. Some people think dark…

I was surprised they did not mention astigmatism. Light mode is clearer than dark mode with astigmatism.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#153

I used to be one of those setting everything to dark mode, custom CSS and all, but I am now cured. It was a difficult time as my eyesight was rapidly deteriorating to the point that I thought that I would need to change carers to something not involving computers. I am so thankful that it is over. The source of the problem was that I had been consistently over-prescribed by different optometrists. I don't blame them,…

>I don't blame them, but something must be off in how they were trained.

No, you should blame them. To this day optometrists will prescribe children glasses despite there being an ample body of evidence that working at distances closer than your far point with full-strength glasses will worsen myopia.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#154
post #64

Just make it configurable. It's not that hard. The only thing I want to hear less about than light vs dark, tabs vs spaces, is the dripping condescension of morning people. Make it configurable and let people be.

If only YCombinator could hear this and decide to do something about HN...

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#155
post #80

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Yes. There's a reason that https://darkreader.org/ has 10 million+ installs while no inverse extensions even exist to my knowledge. The entire web is already light-mode first and much of it, including your site (no offense) offers zero built-in support for the provably massive demand that exists for dark-mode color schemes.

I have a friend who uses a dark mode extension, but has it configured to make everything light mode.

That's awesome. I'm glad your friend is able to benefit from community-provided solutions to a real problem that many people have, even in ways perhaps not originally envisioned by the authors of Dark Reader.

Your friend's preferences are valid and there's no reason for anyone to be vindictively espousing vitriol at those preferences, just like the preferences of the majority of users of this extension who prefer dark mode.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#156

Without taking an extreme or absolutist stance on this issue, I generally agree with the author here. Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. The eyes are adapted to see daylight levels of light during daytime. If your ambient lighting and screen don't match this, then you're not using your body in the way it's evolved to function. What we need more of are screens with anti-glare and a wide…

It absolutely depends on what you do, for any work involving computer imagery, a dark surround, i.e., dark UI, around the area of interest, e.g., 3D Viewport, 2D Canvas is a must so that to not bias the work. This one of the main reason why Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Lightroom, Autodesk Maya, Blender, The Foundry Nuke, Autodesk Flame, Baselight Filmlight, etc... all have dark themed UI.

> for any work involving computer imagery, a dark surround, i.e., dark UI, around the area of interest, e.g., 3D Viewport, 2D Canvas is a must so that to not bias the work

Depends on if you target a dark or bright ui. If you target a bright environment then you want to work in a bright environment and vice versa, otherwise you bias the work for the wrong environment as you say.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#157
post #133
post #95

Dark-mode and light-mode are both so popular as user preference, that apps and sites should make sure at least stock light and dark modes work well, out of the box. Noticeable examples of needing improvement: * Default light and dark themes of programs/apps and sites that have illegible low-contrast color combinations. Very common, sometimes within themes they control entirely but apparently never tested both light a…

If your sleep is important to you (and it definitely should be) you should not be watching movies or browsing bluesky immediately before bedtime. If you are doing so, I don't want to hear complaints about how these apps are affecting your sleep. It's on you.

How about we simplify the point: Support light-mode and dark-mode, and don't mess it up like a vibe-coder.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#158
post #94

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Isn't changing the monitor brightness and color temp a better solution for that?

Many screens, especially on laptops and phones, don't have subtle enough settings Yes, making weird color profiles can get you much closer, if you're able to and your device supports them, but often not close enough

Huh. The built-in night functions on both my Windows and Mac laptops work well and can go super orange. My Mac laptop dims to black at the lowest setting...

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely depends on what you do, for any work involving computer imagery, a dark surround, i.e., dark UI, around the area of interest, e.g., 3D Viewport, 2D Canvas is a must so that to not bias the work. This one of the main reason why Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Lightroom, Autodesk Maya, Blender, The Foundry Nuke, Autodesk Flame, Baselight Filmlight, etc... all have dark themed UI.

> for any work involving computer imagery, a dark surround, i.e., dark UI, around the area of interest, e.g., 3D Viewport, 2D Canvas is a must so that to not bias the work Depends on if you target a dark or bright ui. If you target a bright environment then you want to work in a bright environment and vice versa, otherwise you bias the work for the wrong environment as you say.

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#160
post #35

I occasionally get requests from readers to add a dark mode to my blog - https://simonwillison.net/ - and I'm never sure how much priority I should give those, as someone who almost never chooses to use dark mode. Dark mode fans: does it really bother you to read white web pages?

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