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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by aabhay »

cc101 wrote: post #148

Cook saved Job's Apple? Hardly. Every aspect of today's iPhone violates what Job's stood for. Craig Federighi began his tenure by advertising 200 new features for the new version of iOS. Shortly later he did the same for the Mac. Feature bloat has been Federighi's prime focus. My iPhone is so packed with irrelevancies that is hard to use.

Then switch devices. Oh but you might need to find an alternate solution for your iMessage groups. And your apple watch. And your family icloud plan. And the apple ebooks you bought. And your airpod maxes. And your protection plan. And the airtags you own.

The apple of Steve Jobs is gone, but the apple of today is as sticky as ever.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by johncolanduoni »

welks wrote: post #52
gyomu wrote: post #18

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Steve wanted to become chairman of the board and teach at Stanford. Given how much he trusted Tim, I’m not so sure the company would have taken a dramatically different path had he been around longer.

If he hadn't tried to self-treat his cancer with acupuncture, fruit juice and herbs, he'd probably be around now to do that. The man was clearly a lucky idiot, and shouldn't be revered, but used as a cautionary tale of unbridled arrogance.

He should perhaps be a cautionary tale against thinking that being really good at building consumer tech products makes you good at everything. But if this is your standard for "lucky idiot", I wonder who of note you wouldn't consider a lucky idiot. You can dig up something like this for everyone from Newton to Salk.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

gsharma wrote: post #56
rhubarbtree wrote: post #22

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Wait, Apple Pay Google for search?

No, it’s the other way around. Comment above is confused about the relationship.

Reports say that Apple will be paying Google a billion a year for a Gemini‘d Siri

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by brailsafe »

ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Huge corporations are in the business of manufacturing boring things at scale, throwing money into pits, and moving slowly, it's just what they do, at least after they're initial rise. It seems cynical, but I think only a rare person at a rare company might disagree. As soon as you have dominance, you want to protect that dominance rather try something categorically industry changing. Even if you did, it wouldn't be surprising enough to get much attention unless what it was completely upended your own product line.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

hackerbeat wrote: post #12

Only Craig Federighi can turn the ship around.

Federighi is in charge of software which is Apple’s weak spot right now; hardware has been firing on all cylinders for years now while software gets buggier and more confusing. I'm not sure how he could turn the ship around as CEO if he couldn't as head of software.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by Spooky23 »

harshalizee wrote: post #61
verelo wrote: post #43

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You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

The camera iterates significantly every other year. My kid plays baseball, from little league to now high school ball. The pictures I can take on my iPhone are incredible. (I’d do the same thing with a Pixel or Samsung if I was a Android person)

My work phones are typically on a 4-5 year cycle. I’m currently carrying a 12 or 13 pro. I would have upgraded early for USB-C with that phone, but MagSafe is good enough.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by knollimar »

827a wrote: post #82
rhubarbtree wrote: post #22

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Wait, Apple Pay Google for search?

No, but Apple is likely to be paying Google for access to Gemini in the upcoming Siri revamp, and relies on Google's technology for the default safari search experience, which is what I was referencing.

I thought they're buying a custom model they can run (likely for privacy reasons)

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by knollimar »

epolanski wrote: post #111
wk_end wrote: post #14

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Listen, I don't really like the direction Apple has taken either, but since Tim Cook became CEO of Apple in August 2011 the company's stock went from like $15 to like $275; it had a value of $400 billion and now it's worth $4 trillion, ten times as much. Any characterization of him as some kind of failure who killed Apple ("once the biggest tech company on the planet", "isn't growing", "only saved"...) is completely…

As a customer and tech enthusiasts I couldn't care less about the stock performance of Apple, truly. It's a tech company, I'm interested in the tech they produce. On that front, the company hasn't been innovative for ages.

in house chips are pretty cool. Shared memory is a really nice architectural advancement.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by isleyaardvark »

gyomu wrote: post #71
ludwik wrote: post #39

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But this sounds like an ideal setup, doesn't it? Tim is fantastic at execution, but he does need a shot of big-picture vision every now and then. Tim as CEO with Steve as Chairman, steering the broader direction, feels like it could have been a perfect pairing. The issue with how things actually turned out is that Tim ended up on his own - all execution, no vision.

How many people can name the chairman of the board at Apple today off the top of their head (Arthur Levinson)? And how much does Arthur Levinson steer the broader direction of the company? That's just not what the role is about. Steve was so effective precisely because he was able to get deeply involved in the day to day details in ways no other CEO has (whether on product matters, or personnel matters). That's not w…

Steve Jobs would not have been defined by or limited by his title.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by gcanyon »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

If the Vision Pro were $1000 I'd buy it without hesitation.

At $1500 I'd eventually talk myself into it.

At $3500 I'm just waiting.

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