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Re: Zed is our office

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Post by rsolva »

BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

Yeah, I have been fighting Zed to get agents to use podman on my host, but Flatpak is sandboxed and makes it almost impossible. The ideal solution would be that Zed could use podman or docker to spin up a container where agents could run free!

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by dzonga »

i'm now guessing the software engineering universe is becoming like the lawyer ones

1. big corporate shops / vc funded ones - many tens of programmers working on features (this is where zed collab features might be needed) 2. bespoke high productive small teams - less than 5 product programmers in a company e.g basecamp - these would be your bespoke law firms 3. the indies (injury lawyers) -> 1 - 3 programmers chunning out products at scale or eating of one product + maybe with help of A.I

for 2 & 3 - a lot of stuff being shilled is not needed. a legal pad + some notes that can be posted via a google doc is all that's needed. Jira isn't needed too

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by olejorgenb »

travisgriggs wrote: post #133
olejorgenb wrote: post #109

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> What I mostly want from Zed is the ability to see the outline panel at the same time as the directory panel You can do this now by moving one of them to the right dock (right-click the toggle-button)

And then toggle between that and the AI agent? Zed is a workbench that lets you put two, and only two, tools on your "workbench" to either side of your text workspace. I want to put more tools on my benchtop.

> And then toggle between that and the AI agent?

Yes

- Do you want to split a dock vertically?

- Do you want to open the panels inside an editor split?

- Do you want to detach the panels as separate windows? (https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/17618)

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by satvikpendem »

mikaylamaki wrote: post #148
UtahDave wrote: post #144

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Looks like development of DeltaDB has been discontinued. https://github.com/delta-db/deltadb?tab=readme-ov-file#-upda...

That is a different project :D Here's our overall pitch: https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...

Looks great. I use some CRDTs like Loro and Automerge, are there any learnings or collaboration you're taking from them to improve DeltaDB?

Also the name, I thought it was a database with CRDTs due to the "DB" at the end of DeltaDB, but it's a version control system, I thought that was somewhat misleading, any reason why it's named so?

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by satvikpendem »

pprotas wrote: post #140
verdverm wrote: post #114

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I stay away from anything Hashimoto is making after my experiences with TF & HCL, or at least the bar is much higher / projects get a lot more scrutiny

Yea you’re thinking of Ghostty, this topic is about Zed, which is not related. In fact Zed uses Alacritty for their terminal, I wish it was Ghostty!

Zed is sticking to all Rust, it appears, so Ghostty wouldn't work. Also Ghostty has a lot more UI features itself like tabs etc so I don't think it's as easy to integrate in an editor which also has its own UI, so Alacritty being mainly TUI driven makes more sense.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by satvikpendem »

verdverm wrote: post #116
IshKebab wrote: post #111

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It depends. It definitely opens faster and the general UI seems a bit faster, but open a largish file (a few MB) and VSCode will easily out-perform Zed because it doesn't have that fancy CDRT thing. In my experience VSCode is plenty fast. Use it with no extensions and you will have zero problems with performance (though memory use isn't great). The real problems come when you have extensions, especially because it's…

Why is Zed using a CRDT when I open a source file to edit code? Are they using it for more than their multiplayer stuff? (agentic stuff?)

Based on this comment [0], they're building DeltaDB as a version control system which uses a CRDT, so I assume even in single player mode, the file will instantiate its own CRDT for fine grained tracking of changes.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45916196#45919739

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by [deleted] »

bitbasher wrote: post #106

Maybe I'm old, jaded, stubborn and paranoid, but something about a coding editor that is controlled by a company is off-putting to me. It's even more off-putting when you add Zoom, Slack and everything else into said editor.

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Re: Zed is our office

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Post by seanssel »

railing wrote: post #149

Any plans to leverage 3D at all in the interface? was floored by the "explode all layers in the user interface and simulate a 3D camera rotating around them" graphic when i first saw it ! 3D is always difficult to get right, but felt it had some really cute possibilities, any way to open this up so devs can try things out?? < 3

> was floored by the "explode all layers in the user interface and simulate a 3D camera rotating around them" graphic when i first saw it !

What is this in reference to?

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by satvikpendem »

a-dub wrote: post #79
electroly wrote: post #11

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Pair programming usually has a single "driver" on the keyboard to keep things controllable. Here, everybody is driving: "dozens of cursors are concurrently editing the same file in real-time."

my understanding is that this is the dynamic in modern college classrooms. everyone opens a big shared google doc for notes and they all collaboratively edit a set of notes in real-time. or at least that's what i've heard, no idea if they actually do it. it is nice to see a crdt backed editor tool for markdown and code though. gdocs markdown support has been lacking for years.

> or at least that's what i've heard, no idea if they actually do it.

Yeah, we used to do that back when I was in college. It's only for certain classes and most people usually kept their own notes too (or instead, why write twice). Or some classes ban laptops so you'd write on paper anyway.

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