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I didn't reverse-engineer the protocol for my blood pressure monitor in 24 hours

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Re: I didn't reverse-engineer the protocol for my blood pressure monitor in 24 hours

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> The Hilo Band uses photoplethysmography (PPG)—an optical sensor technology that collects data from your wrist. This data is sent securely through the Hilo App to Hilo’s cloud server, where advanced algorithms estimate your blood pressure using Pulse Wave Analysis (PWA), which looks beyond just the rate of your pulse, and examines the unique form of each heartbeat’s pressure through your blood vessels. I doubt that…

I can do 3 cuff readings within 5 minutes are easily get +- 10 for each measurement. So it doesn't have to be super precise to have comparable accuracy to a cuff. Also the fact it is making continuous readings (even while asleep) is very helpful.

By "cuff" you mean the brachial artery ones, right? I'd be interested in both accuracy (same value when measuring the same thing) and precision (how close to actual value).

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I can do 3 cuff readings within 5 minutes are easily get +- 10 for each measurement. So it doesn't have to be super precise to have comparable accuracy to a cuff. Also the fact it is making continuous readings (even while asleep) is very helpful.

By "cuff" you mean the brachial artery ones, right? I'd be interested in both accuracy (same value when measuring the same thing) and precision (how close to actual value).

>By "cuff" you mean the brachial artery ones, right?

Yes, the one that goes on your bicep.

Anecodtally, it seems to be within the variance of the cuff (plus or minus 10).

Trying to measure both at the same time is tricky as you can't actually tell the Hilo device when to make a measurement. It does it on it's own scedule.

You are supposed to calibrate the bracelet against a cuff at least once a month.

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It seems pretty consistent with a cuff. Also it doesn't jump around wildly from one minute to the next.

How comfortable is it? Do you have to wear it particularly tightly around your wrist or can you let it hang a little loose like a watch?

it doesn't need to be tight. I have it similar tightness to a watch. I don't really notice it. it is supposed to be waterproof, but I haven't really put that to the test.

Re: I didn't reverse-engineer the protocol for my blood pressure monitor in 24 hours

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Orange juice and bannas. My BP was 142/90 and is now 125/80. Eating these twice a day nets you nearly 2000 MG potassium.

You stopped or started OJ+bananas to decrease your BP?

I read somewhere that the potassium in bananas is supposed to decrease BP. Which seems strange given that sodium is supposed to decrease it. Aren't they chemically very similar?

Re: I didn't reverse-engineer the protocol for my blood pressure monitor in 24 hours

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Buried deep is this gem: I tried feeding a lot of this into various Als (Kagi gives you access to a few with a nice interface) and I found that they mostly were stupid in ways that made me think. Perfect summary of why AI is useful for rubber ducking. Doing this with a co-worker you always get some questions that are a few layers too shallow for what you need (because they haven't been thinking about it more than a f…

Even when the duck doesn't answer at all it still often works. I worked next to another engineer in the early eighties who was working on a different project. At tea break time we got into the habit of sitting opposite each other and explaining the problems we were having. Neither of us put much, if any, effort into trying to solve the other's problems because it often turned out that simply attempting to formulate t…

This. Previous cow-orker of mine that was doing remote-only like 10+ years ago at some other company got an actual yellow rubber duck sent to him together with his company laptop when he joined.

I also like to do this when debugging. I'll just write out whatever my current hypotheses are about what the bug is and I adjust as I go, as I disprove or make them more precise. I would usually just do it right on the ticket. It both helps because it provides the "rubber duck" and in the end I just submit the comment and I have a root cause analysis right there.

Unfortunately it's quite rare to see this from anyone and asking them to provide a root cause analysis is usually fraught with peril. I don't quite get why. It's been working awesomely.

And like OP says, AI hasn't made it better in the sense that not everyone can use AI (or cow-orkers) in that way. They just believe what the AI tells them and they literally won't reverse engineer that protocol in 24h ;)

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I had a doc appointment a couple of weeks ago. My wife was driving and we were running late, so I was getting stressed about missing the appointment on top of being stressed about going to see the doctor. There was a lot of traffic so I decided to get out at a red light and run to my appointment while my wife parked the car. I only barely made it and the first thing they did was take my pressure. They took it twice,…

I've never been to a doctor where they waited the appropriate amount of time. It's always almost immediately as you sit down. This has caused a lot of problems for me. I learned most insurance companies require a doctor hold you until your blood pressure is "normal" (where normal is Blood pressure is highly variable even moment by moment. A single data point at your yearly visit is basically meaningless. Even your po…

Just start drinking excessively!

Re: I didn't reverse-engineer the protocol for my blood pressure monitor in 24 hours

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I got it when an eye clinic wanted to do my blood pressure (which is kind of weird in itself), which they did shortly after the glaucoma test which never works for me because I have an overdeveloped blink reflex and it turned up high. It really amazes me how people whose job it is to take blood pressure don’t recognize the stress situations that people are in might result in abnormal readings.

Beyond any clinical reason that your eye clinic might want to know your blood pressure (your vascular system is pretty important to your vision) - they may have been incentivized by the CMS to track blood pressure via the MIPS program which ties provider payments to specific documentation and screening measures. AKA - the government might pay your eye clinic more if they screen you for high blood pressure. (Among oth…

This was the US under Bush II. I’m pretty sure there wasn’t any government payment to Lenscrafters involved.

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White coast hypertension isn't just about a clinical setting, it's more generally about the worry about the results of having your BP measured. [EDIT] OK, well maybe there's another type of hypertension which is related to anxiety about a high result regardless of the measurement setting. I have to take daily BP measurements during titration for ADHD medication. (Using an _A&D UA-611 Plus_ machine at home.) I can put…

Get on ACE inhibitors. Even a low dose cuts out the variance.

Yeah, I'm going to take Internet advice to get on some medication that I don't have any real need to get on.

I can live with the variance thanks.

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Get on ACE inhibitors. Even a low dose cuts out the variance.

Yeah, I'm going to take Internet advice to get on some medication that I don't have any real need to get on. I can live with the variance thanks.

Well speak to your doctor, obviously. That high variation is causing long term vascular damage.

Re: I didn't reverse-engineer the protocol for my blood pressure monitor in 24 hours

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Orange juice and bannas. My BP was 142/90 and is now 125/80. Eating these twice a day nets you nearly 2000 MG potassium.

You stopped or started OJ+bananas to decrease your BP?

Bananas are good, berries and most leafy green vegetables. Avocados, sweet potatoes, nuts and legumes.

Switched to potassium-enriched salt for cooking so no-one else in the household has to suffer bland food.

Beetroot juice (+ apple & carrot to counter the acidity) is also something you could try. Actually good for your blood flow with potential flow on effect for your BP.

Personally taking Omega-3 and magnesium supplements.

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