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Re: Using Generative AI in Content Production

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Because almost everything is risk mitigation or reduction, not elimination. In particular, in the US, the legal apparatus has been gamified to the point that the expectation becomes people will sue if their expected value out of it is positive even if the case is insane on its merits, because it's much more likely someone with enough risk and cost will settle as the cheaper option. And in that world, there is nothing…

Risk mitigation is about a) lowering the risk and b) lowering the cost in the event you get unlucky. This doesn't seem to do the first one. It doesn't actually stop you from doing the things you could get in trouble for doing, even though that was ostensibly the original point. And the second one is where you want to shave off the high side, not the low side. This is why normal insurance is typically a policy large e…

I believe the specific purpose of that is to appeal to the parts of companies that engage in professional ass covering for the hot potato.

That is, if a well-established company offers you a service explicitly promising no human bones in the soup, when all the other services don't promise that, you can make a reasonable argument that, in the event you were required by circumstances to pick one of the services to use, you have done the best you can in that circumstance, even if human bones ended up in the soup, as long as the company doesn't have a known history of not honoring its commitments.

And in that case, it becomes easier to make an argument to your management chain that you didn't deliberately put in human bones to save on cost, you picked the one that explicitly promised no human bones.

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I don't understand this opinion. The only leverage you have to stop Spotify from taking your music and publishing it without your permission is your copyright of the music. In fact, every time I see a complaint about copyright it's always "we tried to do something at small scale for some noble purpose and couldn't because of pesky copyright laws," and it completely ignores the massive scale of abuse for profit purpos…

> The only leverage you have to stop Spotify from taking your music and publishing it without your permission is your copyright of the music. There are a lot of challenges facing a band, including the frustrations of CDBaby and Distrokid. If you told me my music would just magically appear on Spotify without my having to lift a finger (and without having to implicitly endorse them by putting it there), that'd be a hu…

I find your arguments hard to relate to, given that I buy CDs/on Bandcamp because I want to pay musicians. I usually can't afford concerts, so I won't be there as a channel for merch. If you release all your work under permissive licenses, how do you expect to be supported?

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It's true, before copyright existed, no one made any art at all, and they certainly weren't paid for it. Thanks to copyright, the large majority of artists have been well and fairly compensated for their work.

Okay, you're right. I mean, there was patronage for a long time, and then a good era of proper copyright protections. The modern system really does need a reform, I agree. But I don't think we should wholesale put everything in the public domain. I mean, AI scrapers already think that's the case, but…

It's not just AI scrapers, it's the entire concept of the internet.

The internet _wants_ to copy bytes. That's what it does. Right now you're reading this because bytes were copied from my local machine to the HN server, and then to a cache, and then to your machine.

Copying bytes is, in some low-level sense, the entire function of interconnection in the human species.

The idea of trying to bolt-on little machines to restrict the flow of bytes at every vector of network connectivity, just to satisfy some abstract claim of "property" - it's completely nuts. It's never going to work. Tomorrow it will work worse than it does today, and every day going forward until states realize that the laws they want to enforce around this concept are simply not possible on the internet.

And you know who will celebrate that? Musicians like me. Nobody will be happier to see a lubricated copying machine become the human identity more than people who are trying to get their music out there, and trying to be inspired by the music of others.

Re: Using Generative AI in Content Production

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> The only leverage you have to stop Spotify from taking your music and publishing it without your permission is your copyright of the music. There are a lot of challenges facing a band, including the frustrations of CDBaby and Distrokid. If you told me my music would just magically appear on Spotify without my having to lift a finger (and without having to implicitly endorse them by putting it there), that'd be a hu…

I find your arguments hard to relate to, given that I buy CDs/on Bandcamp because I want to pay musicians. I usually can't afford concerts, so I won't be there as a channel for merch. If you release all your work under permissive licenses, how do you expect to be supported?

Yeah, awesome! I love bandcamp.

You can buy our stuff on bandcamp if you want:

https://justinholmes.bandcamp.com/

In my mental model, participating in bandcamp (and getting your supporter badge) is a sort of "merch". You aren't really buying the music - the music is something you hear as the result of a FLAC file being decoded, and that FLAC file can be endlessly and freely copied.

Even better than the bandcamp model, in my thinking, is for you to get the music via pirate channels like bit torrent or IPFS, listen to it, and if you want to, you can buy album-related merch on the ethereum blockchain. That's the long-term vision.

As far as affording concerts: on sufficiently long time scales, I'm wanting to make our shows free-to-enter, buy-a-ticket-stub-if-you-want. Sadly, a lot of great rooms around the country are locked behind contracts with Ticketmaster/AEG and are prohibited from hosting such a show.

> If you release all your work under permissive licenses, how do you expect to be supported?

I believe that a huge majority of our fans are like you: they _want_ to support us, and the spotify model doesn't really give them a channel for that. Permissive licenses don't prevent people from supporting us on bandcamp and similar models.

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For the record, Arc Raiders (just released) makes me feel like I'm back playing MW2 in the golden days. Just in the sense of playing an awesome game and riding the wave of popularity with everyone else.

Arc Raiders, and their previous game The Finals, uses AI in some capacity for Voice Acting - though they do still hire VA and make it explicit in their contract offer >Some of the voice lines were created using generative artificial intelligence tools, using an original sample of voice lines from voice actors hired specifically with an AI-use contractual clause, similar to the studio's production process in The Final…

Good for them! Is this a bad thing now?
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