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Re: Radiant Computer

#152

> RadiantOS treats your computer as an extension of your mind. It’s designed to capture your knowledge, habits, and workflows at the system layer. Data is interlinked like a personal wiki, not scattered across folders. This sounded really interesting... till I read this: > It’s an AI-native operating system. Artificial neural networks are built in and run locally. The OS understands what applications can do, what the…

Other than the usual scepticism around AI, it seems like it goes in the complete opposite direction of what they're trying to do. It sounds like they want to rethink how computers should work right from the beginning, eg they dont ship with a web browser, presumably so developers can rethink what a web browser actually is/should be, which is all really cool.

But then to throw in "you know that thing thats built upon decades of pre-existing infrastructure and assumptions on how computing should work? Yeh thats there too" doesn't seem compatible with the above.

Re: Radiant Computer

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> RadiantOS treats your computer as an extension of your mind. It’s designed to capture your knowledge, habits, and workflows at the system layer. Data is interlinked like a personal wiki, not scattered across folders. This sounded really interesting... till I read this: > It’s an AI-native operating system. Artificial neural networks are built in and run locally. The OS understands what applications can do, what the…

Most of the text on the site seems LLM written as well. Given that the scope of the project involves making their own programming language, OS, and computing hardware, but they don't seem to have made very much tangible progress towards these goals, I don't understand why they decided to spend time making a fancy project site before they have anything to show. It makes me doubt that this will end up going anywhere.

> It's a computer designed to help you learn, create, play, and explore. It's a space to focus, free from distractions. A return to the simple joy of computing: just you and your ideas.

One of the bigger tells is this tendency to triple up on an idea in three separate sentences, each with a slightly different rhythm but with nearly identical meaning.

It’s just not the way I’d imagine a native English hacker would talk about a project like this whose audience is other nerds.

I don’t think the author is grifting or vibe coding, I just imagine they’re not much of a writer and figured they could cut a quick corner and work on the project itself. Writing good product copy is actually really difficult, IMO.

Re: Radiant Computer

#154
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a look at what Rebol did in the late 90s. They have a DSL called "View" for making user interfaces with your scripts. Rebol itself shipped with a program that came with a ton of sample applications including Tetris. The creator of Rebol (Carl Sassenrath) was also big on the Amiga scene and envisioned what he called iOS (internet operating system, not the Apple iPhone OS) where you would do stuff like load a web…

Check the Red programming language.

Red has been in development for a LONG time as a modern rebol replacement. It still isn't complete like Rebol though last time I checked. The development team took a weird turn into block chain and trying to do an ICO and I'm not sure where they are anymore. The project is super ambitious and would be freaking amazing if it ever became production worthy.

Re: Radiant Computer

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a look at what Rebol did in the late 90s. They have a DSL called "View" for making user interfaces with your scripts. Rebol itself shipped with a program that came with a ton of sample applications including Tetris. The creator of Rebol (Carl Sassenrath) was also big on the Amiga scene and envisioned what he called iOS (internet operating system, not the Apple iPhone OS) where you would do stuff like load a web…

Yes, good idea — I know about Rebol but haven’t looked at it from that angle.

Cool. Look at both View and Draw I think. It's all incorporated as part of the main language I believe. Here is the source for a simple calculator app:

https://www.rebol.com/view/demos/calculator.r

Re: Radiant Computer

#156

> RadiantOS treats your computer as an extension of your mind. It’s designed to capture your knowledge, habits, and workflows at the system layer. Data is interlinked like a personal wiki, not scattered across folders. This sounded really interesting... till I read this: > It’s an AI-native operating system. Artificial neural networks are built in and run locally. The OS understands what applications can do, what the…

Looks like an experiment to me. Which is fine. Why not play around? A NN based computer is something people have been contemplating for awhile. Though it seems more like a solution looking for a problem to me ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯[0] > what personal computing could be when designed from first principles. Actually this bugs me more. I really dislike how frequently people claim "first principles". First principles are those tha…

I got the impression it's just a new OS with a different kind of alternative to the internet. Their intent is to have their own systems programming language, UI...etc. I think the idea is to start from scratch and not just rebuild on top of the current monoliths. All of that sounds intriguing to me if they can pull it off. The AI part sounds like something they also want integrated with the OS (maybe their own LLM)? I think you're overthinking what they meant by "first principles". I think that is more about...hey...if we start with this RISC computer...can we build a new computing environment from the ground up based on some core principles like it shouldn't harvest your data and serve you ads and that we don't need a web browser...etc.

Maybe I'm wrong though, but I don't think they're interested in inventing their own universe to create an apple pie from scratch. It sounds like you're alluding to that, which I agree would be an entirely different kind of experiment haha. To further that analogy, it sounds like they may be rejecting the modern industrial/factory approach to buying a Sara Lee apple pie and showing...hey...we can just use an oven and some simple tools.

Re: Radiant Computer

#157
post #127

Look, if someone hasn't done it already, I see absolutely no reason not to build a Lua-based IPFS process, port it absolutely everywhere, and use it to host its own operating system. Why does it always need to be so difficult? We already have the tools. Our methods, constantly changing and translblahbicatin' unto the falnords, snk snk... this kind of contrafabulation needs to cease. Just sayin'. IPFS+Lua. It's all we…

You can build a first version of that in a week or less. I think it could be great. The challenge for me has always been getting other people to use things I've built. But why not try it?

Indeed, I think the thing to do is glom it onto antirez' LOAD81 somehow, and then push some examples somewhere sensible ..

Re: Radiant Computer

#158
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check the Red programming language.

Red has been in development for a LONG time as a modern rebol replacement. It still isn't complete like Rebol though last time I checked. The development team took a weird turn into block chain and trying to do an ICO and I'm not sure where they are anymore. The project is super ambitious and would be freaking amazing if it ever became production worthy.

It had been recently improved. It might not be on par with TCL/Tk polishing, but it can do lots of stuff.

https://www.red-lang.org/

The main issue is the lack of self-bootstrapping.

Re: Radiant Computer

#160

It's always cool to see people playing around with ideas about how to make better computer systems from first principles. On the other hand, it's hard to turn a project into a real system that solves real problems for people. Can I use it to chat on Discord with other people I know who use Discord? If not, then I'm gonna need a computer for that, in addition to this thing. I do not like Discord, but nonetheless it ha…

Chatting on Discord is not actually your problem. Communicating with your friends and with random strangers who have the same parasocials as you is your problem. And the latter is artificial anyway.

The last Discord I joined was for a local math and formal methods meetup group in my area. The one before that was the official chat space for an open source project.

I disapprove of both these groups choosing Discord to run their official chat on. Nonetheless, it's what they picked, so I need to use some kind of software to send messages to Discord's backend to communicate with these groups if I want to participate in them at all.

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