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Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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I thought their mission statement was "Don't be evil", until they shortened it for practicality to just "Be evil". It's certainly how they've been behaving in recent years.

They changed it more than ten years ago into "Do the right thing".

I like "Don't be evil" better. It inherently acknowledges their position of power in a way that "do the right thing" hides

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

#154

On a related note, I think Anna's archive might be the last remaining bastion for books after library genesis got shut down recently. Is anyone aware of other alternatives?

At least for academic papers, the network is still around but has moved to a more decentralized solution. Nowadays, the bleeding edge is a network of [mostly Telegram] bots that you give a doi to and they return your desired paper.

It's called Nexus (or LibrarySTC?) https://libstc.nexus/

It's very fast and efficient. I've never seen a bot get taken down either.

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

#155

On a related note, I think Anna's archive might be the last remaining bastion for books after library genesis got shut down recently. Is anyone aware of other alternatives?

WeLib.org for books AudiobookBay for audiobooks

Is WeLib an Anna's Archive mirror? Seems very similar.

I still mainly use LibGen for books. Got me through college and probably saved me well over $2k on textbooks throughout my courses

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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Go thing that Google hasn't been a part of my life for a while now. I use DuckDuck for search.

Duckduckgo is bing, bing is Microsoft. I don't see how Microsoft is better than google at censorship.

ddg actually has its own crawler and does a tiny amount of its own indexing. It used to do more but resorted to just mostly using Bing and Yandex indexes

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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Location based personalization is pretty useful - if I search for 'Bob's Discount Linguine' I want the one in my neighborhood. Lots of niche things (like programming) also reuse common english words to mean specific things - if I search e.g. 'locking' it's nice to get results related to asynchronous programming instead of locksmiths because google knows I regularly search for programming related terminology. Of cours…

Can you show me what results you see for “locking”? I see dancing move in all profiles I have.

I was defending personalization in general, not saying that google is doing a good job of it now (see last paragraph of my first comment).

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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Duckduckgo is bing, bing is Microsoft. I don't see how Microsoft is better than google at censorship.

ddg actually has its own crawler and does a tiny amount of its own indexing. It used to do more but resorted to just mostly using Bing and Yandex indexes

We have actually started doing a lot more crawling and indexing in the last 24 months.

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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1. Your chatbot doesn't have its own internet scale search index. 2. You're being given information that may or may not be coming in part from junk sites. All you've done is give up the agency to look at sources and decide for yourself which ones are legitimate.

I’m quite happy trading off the agency of wading through trash to an LLM. In fact, I would say that’s something they’re pretty good at.

> look at sources and decide ... which ones are legitimate

> I would say that’s something they’re pretty good at.

Lol. Lmao, even.

Seriously, LLMs are famously terrible at this. It's the entire problem behind prompt injection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_injection

They're really good at... ingesting the trash. Yeah, that's pretty much their whole purpose. But understanding it as trash? Not even close. LLMs don't have taste. As another commenter wrote, it's just regurgitating it back.

Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

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I've been playing around with a variety of search engines such as Kagi, Startpage, Ecosia, DDG. All of them are better than google in finding relevant results. Lol Google is way too "personalized".

I believe Kagi uses the Yandex index as their base as well.

Based on what? Have you read that somewhere?
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