This sucks from both a press release standpoint and how it's not actually a successor (didn't see any quotes from folks in Jupyter blessing this).
I hope the "founders" go back to the drawing board and retry
Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
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Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#152Most heavy users of python notebooks (including us) have a hate love relationship with it, especially when you add it into git.
Honestly this is worth alone for the fact that there isn't random JSON blobs coming in PR diffs.
I wish more people tried it out instead of complaining about the blog post text.
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently they're continuing the tone-deaf announcement with tone-deaf responses to feedback.
They did edit the post..
With no annotations of what was changed or acknowledgment of that things were even changed.
I read it originally when it came out, didnt have a chance to respond initially then came back to look through the comments. If there was anything was changed, it's not obviously apparent...
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#154I’m not familiar with Deepnote, but I have quite a lot of experience with Jupyter, and if someone were to ask me if there are more modern alternatives I would immediately point them to marimo ( https://marimo.io/ ). For me marimo is already a successor to Jupyter, it has replaced it entirely for me.
How hard would it be to add creatine collaboration to Marimo?
Whoops didn't notice the bad autocorrect.
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#155Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…
The whole post feels like it was edited/modified by ChatGPT; `What we opened — in English, not a changelog`, `Why it matters (no fluff):`, `We are big believers in notebooks — full stop` are patterns that always make me feel like an LLM wrote it (sentence followed by a marketing qualifier). I really liked Deepnote the product when I last used it, but the post definitely feels off.
This is just the generic LinkedIn marketing prose
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly, even the Warez Scene has standards, and no commercial backing. They're enforced, too. To see the actual standards, you can search for "standard" on https://defacto2.net/search/file There's a free book that covers that topic: https://punctumbooks.com/titles/warez-the-infrastructure-and...
Not quite a counterexample, since piracy derives all of its value from commercial works, and those who want access to them.
But that has nothing to do with the development, maintenance, or enforcement of the standards, since the corporations have no involvement in any of the standards, and are probably opposed to their existence at all.
It's a great counterexample to "corporate money and influence are required to develop, maintain, and enforce standards", because it shows that it sprang up on its own in the absence of money and has persisted for decades.
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#157Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…
The whole post feels like it was edited/modified by ChatGPT; `What we opened — in English, not a changelog`, `Why it matters (no fluff):`, `We are big believers in notebooks — full stop` are patterns that always make me feel like an LLM wrote it (sentence followed by a marketing qualifier). I really liked Deepnote the product when I last used it, but the post definitely feels off.
Well, you are probably right. Pasting the annoucement in gptzero yields this:
16% AI generated
84% Mixed
0% Human
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup, Marimo seems perfectly gittable and Deepnote looks more of the status quo. > Human-readable format: The .deepnote YAML format replaces .ipynb's messy JSON with clean, version-control and human-friendly structure for projects and notebooks. You can organize multiple notebooks, integrations, and settings into a single .deepnote project for better structure and collaboration. https://marimo.io/blog/python-not-json
Marimo is much better for git than Jupyter. I only wish it had a gittable/reviewable version with output, too.
jupytext completely solves this problem. Agree about the no hidden state comment from above however -- that's a source of constant footguns for us.
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#159I'm Jakub, CEO of Deepnote. Didn't expect to see this trending here! We worked hard to execute on our vision of a data notebook and I'm glad we finally got a chance to open source it. We stand on the shoulders of giants. AMA!
why is your marketing team a bunch of bumbling morons who decided to not only shit on an open source project but also declare your product a "successor" of said project? as if you have any ties to the jupyter project that would allow you to say these things?
Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source
#160I'm pretty confused why a company would waste such an important announcement / milestone with a clearly llm-generated blog post.
For those reading this after the first few hours of posting, the original article was edited following this HN thread (with no acknowledgement).
They put in some effort to remove the egregious / painfully obvious LLM voice.