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Recall for Linux
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Re: Recall for Linux
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's bad in concept as well. All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be public on the Internet at some point . Security? Don't make me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT won't make it any safer. The problem with other people consenting to it is that i…
Conceptually a feature similar to Recall doesn't have to involve sending any data to third parties. It should not need to be a service just a piece of software running locally, doing OCR and full text search indexing using local compute. Incidentally I often tell my friends I run an app on my phone that captures my location 24/7 and they would initially sound horrified. But then I tell them all my location data is no…
“I store all my location data and I see no problem because it's stored locally” is the new “I store all my passwords on a post-it and I see no problem about it”.
The more you store, the higher the risk, simple as that.
Re: Recall for Linux
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
But somehow the malware infested/backdoored alternative has more appeal? Even more than the myriad of other distros, or DIY options for that matter? Doesn't click.
> myriad of other distros, or DIY options for that matter Have you ever seen a working configuration? The only other distro that advertises it out of the box is Fedora. And maybe it is better in this respect than Ubuntu, but I already wasted a few days dealing with the fallout, so maybe I'll try it next year. Manual - maybe. But is spending time learning yet another distro worth the Windows license? re: malware/backd…
Ubuntu is historically unstable and unreliable, in my experience. I would never suggest it for home or work use.
Re: Recall for Linux
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology. The technology can be cool while still be a horrific idea because of the implementation and privacy implications.
As long as it's stored and processed locally, I don't really see the implications being that much worse than someone getting all your local IRC/IM/email logs. (Those or their equivalents are stored in the cloud nowadays but disregard that for now for the sake of argument.)
The equivalent of screenscraping passwords, API keys, etc.
Re: Recall for Linux
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem of "where did I see that" is something I suspect most people have encountered before. How that's actually done, though, is the devil. The vision -- semantic search of human experience -- is cool. The implementation -- always recording cameras piping every minute of your life to TotallyTrustworthyPeople's servers -- not so.
this happens to me less than once a week, not worth any real effort to avoid general ai chatbots can usually answer any question that would be solved by magically summoning the exact page i looked at 2 weeks ago anyway
General chatbots are great for things they have general data about. "What was that movie where..." type things. They don't help with individualized information, unless you feed the same type of information as Recall type solutions gather anyways. Perhaps you don't have much individualized information, or perhaps you just remember it all very aptly - it shouldn't be hard to imagine differently though.
My main usage problem with Recall type solutions is less with lack of something to promise and more with lack of ability to deliver. Especially for local-only solutions. The concept can be great as can be, but it needs to be damn near foolproof to beat out how much we already remember.
Re: Recall for Linux
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is something that's bugged me about BitLocker for ages: What's the point of encrypting your disks if the computer automatically decrypts them anyway? The only situation I can see where this helps you is if someone steals your disk but not your computer, but that seems very unlikely to me. Maybe if someone just clones the disk, but again, it seems much more likely to me that if you're a high enough value target t…
It does decrypt them. But then what? How are you the thief going to extract them or data from RAM of a working machine?
If it’s decrypted, you don’t need to steal it from RAM.
You just do normal file operations and copy the files
Re: Recall for Linux
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's bad in concept as well. All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be public on the Internet at some point . Security? Don't make me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT won't make it any safer. The problem with other people consenting to it is that i…
I'm pretty sure recall was specifically a selling point for laptops with ai chips which could do the processing locally and reasonably efficiently? Though storing the data locally still could make getting compromised by a targeted attack more dangerous.
I have to wonder what edge AI would look like on a laptop. Little super mini Nvidia Jetson? How much added cost? How much more weight for the second and third batteries? And the fourth and fifth batteries to be able to unplug for more than a few minutes?
Re: Recall for Linux
#158I didn't know it was April 1st yet X-D
Re: Recall for Linux
#159Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…
I cannot even tell Windows that I manage updates myself, how can Recall not be an insane paternalism fail?
In my opinion the product owners of Windows lack the maturity do implement anything like Recall responsibly. Perhaps there is pressure in the background, but as the consumer that isn't my problem.
I could see something like Recall be helpful for a lot of users, but the politics of Windows would need to be changed considerably.
e2e encryption freaks should know about the limits of encryption for that matter.
Also I still don't have a Microsoft account. A private one at least.
Re: Recall for Linux
#160And here I was thinking someone had resurrected NeXT's issue tracking system.